.25 Prophet slug testing

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I was slug testing today, I tried 6 different grain slugs, most were from Zan. I have the reg set at a meaty 150 bar, and the three winners were the knock outs 33.95 grain, which had a strange tight fit to the chamber, 33 grain Zan, which were smooth as silk, and the 26 grain hybrids, which high btw are going 1006 FPS, I haven’t tried to lower the reg pressure because they are shooting so well at the higher velocities. The below targets were at the 35 yards, I am getting ready to polish the barrel next week after the holiday, so I am anticipating a much better group from the heavier slugs. I am dabbling with Nielsens at the moment and will post my groups as I shoot.

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I don’t want to bust your balls but I don’t see any groups that show potential. You have to be cutting the same hole at 30-35 yards to even waste a slug at 50 and beyond. Personally if a slug can’t almost match or completely match my pellet groups at a short distance, I just keep tuning and testing. Some guns/barrels just won’t ever do it. Then that gun gets to be just a pellet gun. Or I build a barrel.
 
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I don’t want to bust your balls but I don’t see any groups that show potential. You have to be cutting the same hole at 30-35 yards to even waste a slug at 50 and beyond. Personally if a slug can’t almost match or completely match my pellet groups at a short distance, I just keep tuning and testing. Some guns/barrels just won’t ever do it. Then that gun gets to be just a pellet gun. Or I build a barrel.
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I have a ton more slugs to try, I really want to get this barrel polished before I get too crazy with it, if they still don’t shoot, then absolutely, it’s rebarrel time, I struggled with my 22 a bit and it is now a compact pellet pusher!
 
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You might also consider finding happiness at considerably less speed. Contrary to popular belief, speed is not necessarily your friend with pellet guns shooting slugs. If you find a consistent slug but the groups are just a little too big, it could just be the leade isn’t agreeing with the slug. You have the right slug and barrel but an overlooked key to accuracy is overlooked because guys don’t know how to fix it. Common practice with the slug craze is guys throwing a ton of slugs at the wall looking for one that will stick. That’s great for the industry and keeps money flowing into NSA, Zan and others. But in reality, it’s no different than playing the lottery. I have a Prophet ll in .25 but haven’t shot any slugs out of the factory barrel.
 
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You might also consider finding happiness at considerably less speed. Contrary to popular belief, speed is not necessarily your friend with pellet guns shooting slugs. If you find a consistent slug but the groups are just a little too big, it could just be the leade isn’t agreeing with the slug. You have the right slug and barrel but an overlooked key to accuracy is overlooked because guys don’t know how to fix it. Common practice with the slug craze is guys throwing a ton of slugs at the wall looking for one that will stick. That’s great for the industry and keeps money flowing into NSA, Zan and others. But in reality, it’s no different than playing the lottery. I have a Prophet ll in .25 but haven’t shot any slugs out of the factory barrel.
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Absolutely! I’m going to keep testing and then test some more. I feel like the hybrids are going to like 960s rather than 1000s, and I’d much rather have accuracy than speed!

If you decide you want to test slugs, reach out and I’ll be more than happy to give you some to try, I’ll have plenty!
 
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You inspired me to shoot some tiny bullets out of my Prophet ll even though I have a dedicated .25 gun for that. My RTI’s have always been such exceptional pellet shooters that I just like enjoying the simple life with them. Well, I only tried two slugs from my vast collection. Gut told me what the gun might like and the speed. I spent enough time with my head going in and out of the slug needs speed clouds to know that I always like to start with a mellow relaxed gun, then move up if necessary. Just tried two at 50 yards. First shot was right on top of all the pellet fluff in my barrel. Didn’t clean the gun first. The gun shows potential to shoot them. You just can’t start off with your gun set to the cannon mode.

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Now I have to scrub all that sh#t out of my barrel. But curiosity got the best of me.
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It is a little irritating that it demands such a clean barrel, but I think the polishing should help that, plus now I have 5 that I feel confident enough to test with the polished barrel, I really feel like the hybrids and the 33.6 NSAs are gonna be the winners, maybe the 36.2 NSAs, who knows.
 
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Well, I’m sorta impressed. Thought I detected some vertical stringing at first but the group can still almost be covered by a nickel. So I shot a second group and it’s definitely under a nickel at 75 yards. If you overlap both groups relative to my aiming point, it’s not too shabby. The barrel on these guns are no joke. My CZ barreled RTI shot slugs but that’s all it did. When I squeezed the trigger, it shot them. It was not this good. Not sure what diameter you’re using but I’m using .250 and trying not to waste any air out of my barrel. You can’t have good accuracy when you’re wasting air.

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Well, I’m sorta impressed. Thought I detected some vertical stringing at first but the group can still almost be covered by a nickel. So I shot a second group and it’s definitely under a nickel at 75 yards. If you overlap both groups relative to my aiming point, it’s not too shabby. The barrel on these guns are no joke. My CZ barreled RTI shot slugs but that’s all it did. When I squeezed the trigger, it shot them. It was not this good. Not sure what diameter you’re using but I’m using .250 and trying not to waste any air out of my barrel. You can’t have good accuracy when you’re wasting air.

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Great groups! Well worth the goop in the barrel
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the slugs I shot today were all .250 except one, I’m sure you can figure out which one, it definitely likes the larger diameter, which makes sense, because my .22 likes .218 diameters, it simply will not shoot anything else.
 
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FWIW guys - I've been having good success with the S. African ones ( name just came back to me -- it's getting late and I'm tired - lol ) -- Patriot Javelins Gen 2's - .250's @32g out of a new RPB barrel in an older PP1 body. ( checking my strelok now . . . . ) 953 fps. Gun's upstairs -- from memory though - I don't think I have the reg real hot - 150, maybe 160'ish . . . I knocked down 38 out of 40 targets at a recent 'XFT' meet last month with the local FT group here in the Binghamton, NY area. I picked 'em up from UA I believe.

@Prophetganda - This gun, as well as a couple of my other ones that I have - tuned per some of VetMX's recommendations. He's (one of) *the guys* in here to listen to. Getting nothing less than clover leafs @30 yards - I won't even take it out to 50 - pellets, slugs - whatever. It's GOTTA be *tight* in close before I'll even consider stretching 'em out.
 
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Barrel clean and I’m back on pellets. At least now I know if a buddy and I are going to go after some bigger tougher critters, I can put this gun on that slug and lend it to him. And never aggravate my reg by playing with it. Now I have to wonder how long it will take me to lose my mind and have to try that slug at some of my 100 yard spinners. I’ll try to resist but no promises. To Prophetganda, don’t worry about speed or big internet slug reg settings. Focus on accuracy and not wasting air. Start conservative, work your way up and watch what the bullet does. If it never gets good enough, then start again with another slug. You picked a reg setting and are throwing everything at that setting trying to make something stick. There is nothing methodical about that but you could get lucky. But I doubt it.
 
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Barrel clean and I’m back on pellets. At least now I know if a buddy and I are going to go after some bigger tougher critters, I can put this gun on that slug and lend it to him. And never aggravate my reg by playing with it. Now I have to wonder how long it will take me to lose my mind and have to try that slug at some of my 100 yard spinners. I’ll try to resist but no promises. To Prophetganda, don’t worry about speed or big internet slug reg settings. Focus on accuracy and not wasting air. Start conservative, work your way up and watch what the bullet does. If it never gets good enough, then start again with another slug. You picked a reg setting and are throwing everything at that setting trying to make something stick. There is nothing methodical about that but you could get lucky. But I doubt it.
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So this is at 140 bar, the shot below the red dot is shot 1, I adjusted, the group is 5 shots at 35 yards, the number nine on the right is at 75 yards and left number nine is at 100, thanks for the feedback, she loves hybrids!!

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