Regular Heavies, not MKII’s?I have to post again about this same topic. Kind of a follow up. I shot the gun yesterday in very windy conditions. I had a full SCBA tank, so I filled the Skout to 4000 psi, and looked at the HP reg pressure - 1815 psi. I shot the gun down to 2100 psi, and HP reg pressure was 1833 psi. That’s only about 1 bar. Very good performance, and the shot string averaged 958 fps with .25 Heavy pellets.
One thing I did notice in windy conditions with lots of swirls and up/down drafts is that the Skout handles those better than my .25 Red Wolf with the same pellets. It could be that with the 1:28 twist in the Skout it lessens vertical jump compared to the 1:17.7 twist in the RW. In any case, it was easier to shoot good groups and scores in that wind with the Skout.
In little to no wind conditions I think the RW may be slightly more accurate, but yesterday in windy swirly conditions that wasn’t the case.
I rescind my statement that the Skout is only good for Benchrest and not good for EFT and/or PRS type events. Now that the HP reg is functioning properly the ES and SD are comparable to my Red Wolf - the Skout Epoch has my recommendation for all types of competition shooting with pellets.
MK2 but RangeMaster Emperors which is Daystate brand. Still JSB. My FX Outdoors Chrony gives me 0.065 G1 BC at 958 fps.Regular Heavies, not MKII’s?
Skout has been great about addressing and correcting issues. I’d say by now most issues are updated in the latest production runs. My last wish is to have something that holds the cocking arm back when cocking like a magnet or ball detent. That’s a big deal for PRS but not for most other thingsI really want one, no i dont, yes i do, no i dont, i was just about to purchase a epoch thinking it was exactly what i was looking for when the author of this thread discoverd a few teething issues/problems, I still want one but Geeze it all seems like A pain in the arse that i,m thinking a fair chunk of wonga for a fair chunk of hassle…..
Showed you "How Too" on that one ... It is not that difficult to do the simple modificationMy last wish is to have something that holds the cocking arm back when cocking like a magnet or ball detent. That’s a big deal for PRS but not for most other things
Yes, gotcha. That was another hint to Skout to institute an improvement to the Epoch. Do I need a bottoming drill for that?Showed you "How Too" on that one ... It is not that difficult to do the simple modification
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I just spot drilled at @ .220" and using a 1/4" ( .250" ) 4 flute end mill by hand, made the hole @ .120" deep creating a corner/shoulder to hold the depth of magnet which was CA glued into place. Assembled the magnets don't touch, but pass over one another very close.Yes, gotcha. That was another hint to Skout to institute an improvement to the Epoch. Do I need a bottoming drill for that?
Sounds like you’re looking for a gun that’ll never have problems or require adjustments. Perfect out of the box, with not one thing to do to it but mount a scope and feed it pellets. They are out there, but just know one adjustment on anything changes how it came from the factory and you risk the domino effect.I really want one, no i dont, yes i do, no i dont, i was just about to purchase a epoch thinking it was exactly what i was looking for when the author of this thread discoverd a few teething issues/problems, I still want one but Geeze it all seems like A pain in the arse that i,m thinking a fair chunk of wonga for a fair chunk of hassle…..
IMHO, if you want a quality gun that is out of the box no adjustment, mount scope and shoot no hassle, look at the Daystate Huntsman Revere or Daystate Wolverine. The Huntsman for .177 or low power .22, the Wolverine for higher power .22 or .25 caliber. Can’t go wrong with either one.I really want one, no i dont, yes i do, no i dont, i was just about to purchase a epoch thinking it was exactly what i was looking for when the author of this thread discoverd a few teething issues/problems, I still want one but Geeze it all seems like A pain in the arse that i,m thinking a fair chunk of wonga for a fair chunk of hassle…..
No sorry it doesn’t but if i had bought one at the same time as mike for circa 2500€ and i had it fail and then had to return it to skout and then straight away had other issues i would be pissed, I appreciate skout are jumping on the issues and i,m not trying to kick them down as i pretty much will own one, Also i have no problem with tinkering and tuning as i have a few guns in my collection all modified by myself but for me out of the box i would want better,Sounds like you’re looking for a gun that’ll never have problems or require adjustments. Perfect out of the box, with not one thing to do to it but mount a scope and feed it pellets. They are out there, but just know one adjustment on anything changes how it came from the factory and you risk the domino effect.
It’s the methodical approach that dictates wether it’s a hassle or not
You mean assembled in america lolIt’s a butt ugly gun in my Eyes! But they seem to shoot well and they are all American made! And that’s becoming my mantra as of late.
I went out this weekend for a little while shooting too. I tried going to to 960 again because you had good success, but mine doesn’t seem to like it that fast. I thought 930ish was ok with a good spread. Mine still seems to be much better at 910-915. I need to see if I can find a way to tighten the spread up some, but that is where my accuracy is.I did some trial and error this past week with the Gold Skout. I had been close to 960 fps but slowed it down a bit to the low 940s. Better consistency and down range accuracy. It likes the .25 Heavy Daystate Rangemaster pellets the best.
HP right around 1800 psi, LP at 170 ish. Dwell at 25 microseconds.
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Good to know. I still need to try much lower like 860 to 880 fps to see how it does at that speed. I normally do that but everyone that has competed with the .25 was saying 960 ish so I started there.I went out this weekend for a little while shooting too. I tried going to to 960 again because you had good success, but mine doesn’t seem to like it that fast. I thought 930ish was ok with a good spread. Mine still seems to be much better at 910-915. I need to see if I can find a way to tighten the spread up some, but that is where my accuracy is.
I also removed the Whisper parts, and went back to the factory moderator. It is most consistent like that. Factory was also better than with another moderator I tried too.
Good point… didn’t even try that low. I don’t think I have had any good groups over 930.Good to know. I still need to try much lower like 860 to 880 fps to see how it does at that speed. I normally do that but everyone that has competed with the .25 was saying 960 ish so I started there.
I noticed at 940 ish my groups tightened up compared to 960+ and actually shot a 230 ish EBR card is swirly winds.
I’ll leave that to CC (or others) to answer as he will be able to give you good guidance on all those. I have only ever shot at the bench with mine, and shot regular FT with other rifles, so the idea of EFT is intriguing. I am only about to start playing around with EFT style shooting.Hey Guys, couple questions if you don't mind.
When/where is the next EFT event?
Are you removing the rail and resting bottle in bipod saddle?
What is the best shooting sticks to use?
Thanks