3 Liter Tanks from Tuxing or Acecare

I have been using a Benjamin 90cu.in. for a long time, and like that I can fill it from 3000 to 4500 in about an hour with my old Shoebox compressor. I'm thinking of a 3 liter tank, to give me roughly double the air before refilling, but also small enough to refill in a reasonable amount of time. I also may upgrade compressors soon.

I see them from Tuxing and Acecare on eBay, both for around $225. I see the Acecare on AliExpress for $185. I have several orders from AliExpress with no issues, but I know you need to be careful and know exactly what you are getting.

Does anyone have one of the 3l tanks?
Did anyone get it from AliExpress?
Any experience with any of the Acecare, or Tuxing tanks, and the included fill systems?
 
I use my own compressor so i bought the acecare 6.8l tank. I got the acecare Tank by itself and order this fill station. It's small and compact. Show both bottle gauge so you know what the Tank pressure is and also show pressure going into your gun. It have a quick fill so will fill any pcp with a quick fill. If you want to fill at a shop you will need a tank that is DOT like the great white. Which is about $700. Not worth it imo when acecare tank is like $200 for the bottle and $60 for the fill station.

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While my original Shoebox still works fine after about 14 years, I may upgrade to the CS4, and keep the Shoebox for a backup. I like taking a small tank to the range to simplify things, and filling it at home. The Benjamin tank has been good for that, with it's smallness, but provides limited air. The 3l would double my air, but still be somewhat small.

Do you have a bag for the 3l tank?
 
I am a Shoebox user as well, and I added a 9L Acecare tank to my "system" last year and really like it. I did not get the Acecare valve - I went with the Saber Tactical valve and their adaptor, as I wanted something more robust on mine. I basically use the 9L as an "air bank" and use that to refill my smaller Joe Brancato Guppy tank (just under 2L) that was my principal tank before the 9L came along. The Guppy goes up about 500 psi with every 100 psi that the 9L drops, which works better for me now with the high pressure fills that my Huben K1 and Sidewinder take - I typically fill them to 4000 psi, and I only got a few full fills off the Guppy before. Now I can have the Guppy full as a traveler, or fill the high pressure guns directly from the 9L at home.

It is important to understand that the run time of your compressor is based on how much you shoot, not how big the tank is - at least once it is full (it took about 13 hours of total run time to fill the big 9L the first time). I don't run the Shoebox any more total time than I did before I got the 9L tank, but I tend to run it less often for a longer run time now. It puts out the same amount of air in the same amount of time as before, and that air usage is all dependent on the shooting.

One thing I did along time ago was to add a calculation to my tuning files in Excel that, in addition to the normal air efficiency metrics, also tells me how that tune performs in terms or pellets shot per minute of runtime of the Shoebox. Most of my .22s run abut 6-8 "PPM" or so of run time, and that does not change as I change which tank I fill from . . . .

Go ahead and get another compressor if you want, but it won't change much in the big scheme of things. In my case, I bought a second used Shoebox off the classifieds to have as a backup in case mine dies, as I already have the parts and knowledge to maintain it and I really do like them. I should be all set now, but worst case I'll simply buy a CS4 if needed - or whatever the best going compressor like it is available when needed, which most likely won't be for many years (or decades). I think it would make sense to use the Shoebox till it dies rather than to keep it as the backup to a CS4, as most mechanical things don't really like to stored long term and may not work right when called up in several years. With that in mind, my backup Sheobox gets used every few months to keep it fresh. If you go the route you are planning, I'd suggest doing the same to keep it working well.
 
All good information. It is true, the Shoebox, while slow, is very reliable. I purchased some rebuild kits, and some spare parts when he closed up shop. I may not get another compressor, and definitely not right away. One thing a new CS4 would change drastically is the time waiting for a fill. I'm still on the fence on that.

I thought the Tuxing and Acecare were the same. I'm kinda leaning toward paying a little more, and getting one from ebay, at least I would have a little bit of protection.
 
All good information. It is true, the Shoebox, while slow, is very reliable. I purchased some rebuild kits, and some spare parts when he closed up shop. I may not get another compressor, and definitely not right away. One thing a new CS4 would change drastically is the time waiting for a fill. I'm still on the fence on that.

I thought the Tuxing and Acecare were the same. I'm kinda leaning toward paying a little more, and getting one from ebay, at least I would have a little bit of protection.
I don't mind the slow speed, as the Shoebox is good to run on its own with no supervision. I do other chores like mowing the lawn or such or watching a football game on TV while it does its thing quietly in the basement, and then I show up after it is done to unhook everything. I calculate that the CS4 would be about 3 times faster than my Shoebox Max (~twice as fast as an F10) and I just don't see that as a game changer for me - faster, but not enough faster to really change what I do. If I shot big bores and used than much more air then maybe, but not for how I use it with my shooting.

I forgot that I ordered my Acecare tank from their eBay store too. It cost a few bucks more than doing it off AliExppress or such but I felt it was a much safer transaction working through eBay . . .
 
While my original Shoebox still works fine after about 14 years, I may upgrade to the CS4, and keep the Shoebox for a backup. I like taking a small tank to the range to simplify things, and filling it at home. The Benjamin tank has been good for that, with it's smallness, but provides limited air. The 3l would double my air, but still be somewhat small.

Do you have a bag for the 3l t
 
I have a couple Tuxing 6.8 L tanks and assorted cheap valves & they work perfectly fine. Acecare is probably no different.

Paying half a grand (or more) to do something simple like caddying some air didn't seem to make much sense. So far no buyer's regrets.....
Received my Tuxing 6.8L today, looks like a good tank

I didnt purchase the chinese valves, I didnt trust it.
 
I received the valve, still haven't received the tank. The valve looks pretty decent to me. It's my third different valve system. One of them has a nicer gauge, but other than that, all very similar.

Is there anything I need to know when installing the valve in the tank? My other tanks came with valve installed, and have never been removed.
Dont overtighten the valve , so you dont destroy the o ring.

Simply hand-tighten the valve until it stops, then give it a slight extra turn—just enough to ensure a snug fit. The O-ring will create a proper seal over time.
 
It is not necessary to crank down on a tank valve. Bottle pressure alone keeps the valve from loosening. Please note that removing a tank valve can be a real problem when overtightening. In that case, because there is no wrench surface on a bottle, applying torque to the valve is almost impossible. A method I use is strapping the bottle longitudinally to a forklift fork with a cargo strap works amazingly well without damaging the bottle..

I have had some issues with Chinese tank valves, but none were safety related. They work fine. My issues were too heavy chrome plating creating oversize threads and another valve that leaked because a drilled hole was off center and caused an O ring leak.