3 flags: 10, 20 and 30 yards. Also have streamers on target holder at 40 yards, but don’t usually pay much attention to those at the target.
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30-Yard Challenge
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3 flags: 10, 20 and 30 yards. Also have streamers on target holder at 40 yards, but don’t usually pay much attention to those at the target.
Thanks guy’s, I just truly believe the gun is capable of better scores. There is lots of odd vertical? One of the reasons of trying different lots on same day and targets. The wind was left to right and minimal so don’t believe that to be a factor like a tail or head wind? Hopefully I’ll get it sorted.
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Scotty,
What are your thoughts on that Saber Tactical stock on your Crown?
I’ve thought about one for my Crown, is it heavier than the laminate stock? (Heavier is better for me). Also, is there any flex/play where the butt piece folds?
Thanks,
Ed
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I shoot the fx 25.4 at 100 yards. Sub moa. But at 50 yards I shoot them faster, about 988. In windy conditions, they get there faster,less time to drift. If it's always windy there I would try the 24.5 pellets. Nice card by the way.
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I have a nice one that's collecting dust. No reasonable offer will be refused. Something to think about.
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Ed,
The lockup on the stock is rock solid, but I do have a small piece of packing tape in the joint as a shim. The stock is definitely heavier than the walnut stock, and you can add m-lock weights to the sides. The long bottom rail is nice, arca ending in a short pic rail, and the butt pad works great for me, and kinda hangs from my shoulder. Mine is the gen 1 version, I’m not sure what has been changed on the new version.
I just looked, I prefer the 1st gen.
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Today took my AirMaks KRAiT L and sent some JSB Beast 16.20gr .177 pellets down range. KRAiT is tuned to shoot 13gr ZAN slugs and with the same tune JSB KO 13.43gr slugs. But it shot Beasts as well.
Not so high score. It's more due to hold of the gun and heavier trigger than my Vulcan 3. Also KRAiT is considerably lighter than Vulcan, so it "jumps" when fired. Need to shoot more with my KRAiT.
And it started raining from group 5 and on.
At least opened score with it.
Target: 30-yard Challenge
Rifle: AirMaks Arms KRAiT L .177cal.
Ammo: JSB Beast 16.20gr .177cal.
Velocity: 866fps
Scope: Vector Optics Veyron 4-16x44 FFP
Magnification: 16x
One bird bombed me while shooting, shooting table and scope ring took a hit.
After shooting my card, my son wanted to plink a bit. To get in position He needed raiser - 6" by 6" under Him.
Next in line is my Dreamline GRS.
I have one question - is it OK if I shoot card with my Dreamline with 20gr ZAN slugs? I really don't want to de-tune it for lighter pellets.
Not so high score. It's more due to hold of the gun and heavier trigger than my Vulcan 3. Also KRAiT is considerably lighter than Vulcan, so it "jumps" when fired. Need to shoot more with my KRAiT.
And it started raining from group 5 and on.
At least opened score with it.
Target: 30-yard Challenge
Rifle: AirMaks Arms KRAiT L .177cal.
Ammo: JSB Beast 16.20gr .177cal.
Velocity: 866fps
Scope: Vector Optics Veyron 4-16x44 FFP
Magnification: 16x
One bird bombed me while shooting, shooting table and scope ring took a hit.
After shooting my card, my son wanted to plink a bit. To get in position He needed raiser - 6" by 6" under Him.
Next in line is my Dreamline GRS.
I have one question - is it OK if I shoot card with my Dreamline with 20gr ZAN slugs? I really don't want to de-tune it for lighter pellets.
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Shot this card Saturday at our club PSA in Palmyra PA winds were switching
and unpredictable ranging from 5 to 12 miles an hour.
I used a Raw BM 500 with a Benchmark barrel. It is a sub-12-ft lb. rifle shooting JSB 10.34 pellets at 715 fps, scope was a Sightron ED 45x45, I was shooting on an Ahrens 1 Piece rest. Plug used was a .177 shank with a .223 rim.
and unpredictable ranging from 5 to 12 miles an hour.
I used a Raw BM 500 with a Benchmark barrel. It is a sub-12-ft lb. rifle shooting JSB 10.34 pellets at 715 fps, scope was a Sightron ED 45x45, I was shooting on an Ahrens 1 Piece rest. Plug used was a .177 shank with a .223 rim.
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I might have to try some of those 20.83s. My Caiman doesn't like other JSB pellets very much including the 25 grain but it might like those. I agree that 18s move a lot in the wind (it prefers H&N 18s but I suspect wind drift is similar). I sometimes start a card in the wind but seldom finish it. Just too frustrating to shoot a few Xs in a row and then an 8 because the wind shifted unexpectedly. 177 is worse, of course. Even big 33.95s in 25 are difficult for me to shoot in wind.
I am blessed to live where I get still air sometimes. It is still right now but we are headed out to church soon. Early mornings are best in the summer.
I am blessed to live where I get still air sometimes. It is still right now but we are headed out to church soon. Early mornings are best in the summer.
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Awesome card Rod!
199 17X with 12 ft/lbs using 10.3g at a gun club range with wind - wow - that RAW BM is performing- vertical is stellar.
To shoot this card, what was your furthest hold point that you recall?
-Ed
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Jim, I know just how you feel.
There are times when I start a card, miss a couple of wind calls early on; and I used to stop. Now, I use it to practice my wind holds and just forget about scoring that card. It actually helps me because if I can figure out a hold that can get me a bunch of ten’s, it’s worth it to ‘learn’ from I figure.
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So I shot two cards today. The wind was quite difficult. It wasn't quite as much wind as yesterday but it was really switching back and forth I made a mistake on the one I have the x marked as no as the one Target I threw out. The big heavy red x is the one I threw out
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Awesome cards!
The 10.3g is a great pellet, but I never tried them as low as 715fps. Its great to have your RAW BM .177 on the leaderboard as it shows what can be achieved at a modest (by USA standards) velocity.
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Leaderboard Submission:
40-Masters: 198 15X
Rifle: FX Dreamline Power Pup .22
Barrel: 600mm super light
Pellet: FX 18.13g
Velocity: 915fps
Scope: Sightron SII 36x (fixed power)
Conditions were very mild breeze and high humidity at 87F. 2 second video attached shows very mild wind conditions on my home made flags.
This is the 1st card shot with 18.13g from this barrel I recently bought off AGN classifieds. Shot a 197 40-Challenge in the wind with this new-to-me barrel the other day - using 20.83g MRDLs.
I started to think about score after the 1st 3 rows - as I shoot left to right and top-to-bottom.
I had a 198 17X 40-Masters with .22 FX Crown last year.
When you shoot a card like this at 40, you go “Holy Smokes!”. I followed up this card with a 190 11X 40-Masters with the Power Pup 600mm 18.13g combo. I think the 2nd card was getting too close to reg pressure, as vertical started to get less consistent.
I have the trigger breaking at 3.5 ounces (yes, it’s a miracle setup on an FX trigger) and it has 2 stages - I kid you not for those that have taken apart and worked on FX triggers.
In any case, thank you Tom for selling me this barrel, lol - it’s a shooter!
-Ed
40-Masters: 198 15X
Rifle: FX Dreamline Power Pup .22
Barrel: 600mm super light
Pellet: FX 18.13g
Velocity: 915fps
Scope: Sightron SII 36x (fixed power)
Conditions were very mild breeze and high humidity at 87F. 2 second video attached shows very mild wind conditions on my home made flags.
This is the 1st card shot with 18.13g from this barrel I recently bought off AGN classifieds. Shot a 197 40-Challenge in the wind with this new-to-me barrel the other day - using 20.83g MRDLs.
I started to think about score after the 1st 3 rows - as I shoot left to right and top-to-bottom.
I had a 198 17X 40-Masters with .22 FX Crown last year.
When you shoot a card like this at 40, you go “Holy Smokes!”. I followed up this card with a 190 11X 40-Masters with the Power Pup 600mm 18.13g combo. I think the 2nd card was getting too close to reg pressure, as vertical started to get less consistent.
I have the trigger breaking at 3.5 ounces (yes, it’s a miracle setup on an FX trigger) and it has 2 stages - I kid you not for those that have taken apart and worked on FX triggers.
In any case, thank you Tom for selling me this barrel, lol - it’s a shooter!
-Ed
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Nic
Here’s my entry for the 30 yard Masters Leaderboard
Rifle: Daystate Red Wolf “Mutant” .177
Barrel: Lothar Walther Polygonal Choked .177
Pellets: QYS 9.56gr unsorted
Velocity: 850fps
Scope: Vector Optics 10-40X50 SFP Sentinel X
Video:
*Please disregard extra hit on target #3 because I placed an 8.44gr pellet instead of QYS 9.56gr*
Shooting video to follow when my internet speed stabilizes.
Nice shooting @EPG
Here’s my entry for the 30 yard Masters Leaderboard
Rifle: Daystate Red Wolf “Mutant” .177
Barrel: Lothar Walther Polygonal Choked .177
Pellets: QYS 9.56gr unsorted
Velocity: 850fps
Scope: Vector Optics 10-40X50 SFP Sentinel X
Video:
*Please disregard extra hit on target #3 because I placed an 8.44gr pellet instead of QYS 9.56gr*
Shooting video to follow when my internet speed stabilizes.
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Nic
Nice shooting @EPG
Here’s my entry for the 30 yard Masters Leaderboard
Rifle: Daystate Red Wolf “Mutant” .177
Barrel: Lothar Walther Polygonal Choked .177
Pellets: QYS 9.56gr unsorted
Velocity: 850fps
Scope: Vector Optics 10-40X50 SFP Sentinel X
*Please disregard extra hit on target #3 because I placed an 8.44gr pellet instead of QYS 9.56gr*
Shooting video to follow when my internet speed stabilizes.
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Great card Rick!
Interesting Redwolf custom. Benchrest type stock and it looks like a regulator added behind the bottle? Or does it still use the Daystate electronics to regulate velocity?
Is the barrel still the original Daystate barrel or a custom LW poly?
Do you prefer the QYS pellets over the JSB? We don’t see QYS much in the USA.
Yeah, we’ll overlook the 8.44 shot if you say so - I don’t think you could miss by that much and shoot that awesome card unless you loaded a pellet backwards, lol.
-Ed
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