30-Yard Challenge

[TheAirgunnero]

My only card today…

Leaderboard submission - Weihrauch HW110.

It doesn’t beat my 198 30-Masters score with the HW110, but it beats my 30-Challenge score of 196. So, I’ll submit it for the 30-Challenge:

30-Challenge: 197 15X (!)
Rifle: Weihrauch HW110 .22
Pellet: JSB 15.89g @ 712fps
Scope: Arken EPL-4 6x24 FFP @ 24x

Wind conditions were mild. I then did some plinking at 40 yards with the HW110. It did really well. It took what seemed a long time for the little 15.89g to hit the target at 40 yards when traveling only 710fps. The rifle is so quiet with this mild tune - fun to shoot.

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Keep it up Ed and to everyone! Don’t give up until you all reach your goals.

Here’s my leaderboard submission for November:

GCMAG Magnum Gen 2 .177 cal setup using JSB 13.43gr unsorted pellets @815 fps, Vector Optics Sentinel X @30X magnification, Protektor Model Deluxe BB rear bag as front rest and Protektor rabbit ear rear bag.

Score: 200 20X

 

[TheAirgunnero]

Here’s my 2nd leaderboard submission for November:

GCMAG Magnum Gen 2 .177 cal setup using JSB 13.43gr unsorted pellets @815 fps, Vector Optics Sentinel X @30X magnification, Protektor Model Deluxe BB rear bag as front rest and Protektor rabbit ear rear bag.

Score: 198 16X

 

[tommyb]

My only card today…

Leaderboard submission - Weihrauch HW110.

It doesn’t beat my 198 30-Masters score with the HW110, but it beats my 30-Challenge score of 196. So, I’ll submit it for the 30-Challenge:

30-Challenge: 197 15X (!)
Rifle: Weihrauch HW110 .22
Pellet: JSB 15.89g @ 712fps
Scope: Arken EPL-4 6x24 FFP @ 24x

Wind conditions were mild. I then did some plinking at 40 yards with the HW110. It did really well. It took what seemed a long time for the little 15.89g to hit the target at 40 yards when traveling only 710fps. The rifle is so quiet with this mild tune - fun to shoot.

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That 110 is shooting great at 18 FPE. That’s almost 100 FPS less than my HW100 .22 that you set up for me. Looks like slower is better for these German Weihrauch air rifles, at least for 30Y Challenge accuracy. As many have observed and commented on, faster doesn’t always translate to better accuracy.

Nice cards Ed.

 

[EPG]

Here’s my 2nd leaderboard submission for November:

GCMAG Magnum Gen 2 .177 cal setup using JSB 13.43gr unsorted pellets @815 fps, Vector Optics Sentinel X @30X magnification, Protektor Model Deluxe BB rear bag as front rest and Protektor rabbit ear rear bag.

Score: 198 16X

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Incredible shooting Ricky!

Did you do any customization of your GCMAG? Is it regulated? If yes, Factory reg or Huma?

Perhaps sometime you can post a video of your hold and trigger pull?

Also, what happened with the 8 on the 198 40-Masters card… it must have been a bad pellet…?

-Ed

 

[EPG]

That 110 is shooting great at 18 FPE. That’s almost 100 FPS less than my HW100 .22 that you set up for me. Looks like slower is better for these German Weihrauch air rifles, at least for 30Y Challenge accuracy. As many have observed and commented on, faster doesn’t always translate to better accuracy.

Nice cards Ed.

Thanks Tommy.

My HW110 came with a 600mm barrel. I swapped in the 410mm and a UK spec hammer spring shuttle. Dropped the reg pressure from 150 to 90bar.

Now its the ultimate backyard rifle - quieter than my .177s ! Super accurate too.

 

[TheAirgunnero]

Incredible shooting Ricky!

Did you do any customization of your GCMAG? Is it regulated? If yes, Factory reg or Huma?

Perhaps sometime you can post a video of your hold and trigger pull?

Also, what happened with the 8 on the 198 40-Masters card… it must have been a bad pellet…?

-Ed

Hi and thanks Ed.

My GCMAG has a stock regulator which has a different design from all other regs but functions the same.

My hold is very simple… I just place my rifles on top of the front and rear bag, pinch the rear bag so that the butt will not move and then I slowly pull the trigger. I don’t shoulder my rifles since the recoil is very minimal.

The 8 was caused by a pellet with a bent skirt since the pellets I used are my “rejects”.

-Ricky

 

[EPG]

Hi and thanks Ed.

My GCMAG has a stock regulator which has a different design from all other regs but functions the same.

My hold is very simple… I just place my rifles on top of the front and rear bag, pinch the rear bag so that the butt will not move and then I slowly pull the trigger. I don’t shoulder my rifles since the recoil is very minimal.

The 8 was caused by a pellet with a bent skirt since the pellets I used are my “rejects”.

-Ricky

Thanks Ricky…

But you are a successful competition shooter, so I’m hoping that you will let us “dig deeper” into your shooting technique…

On many of my rifles, I’m putting pressure on the trigger from the 2 o’clock position with my index finger - with counter pressure from my thumb from the 8o’clock position. This offsetting pressures keeps the crosshairs from moving - both horizontally and vertically.

How do you feel regarding trigger pressure - what is your technique - hoping that you will share some insights.

I agree that with PCP “recoilless” rifles - definitely try to minimize touch/pressure points on the rifle… I only touch the triger when shooting - nothing else.

-Ed

 

[TheAirgunnero]

Thanks Ricky…

But you are a successful competition shooter, so I’m hoping that you will let us “dig deeper” into your shooting technique…

On many of my rifles, I’m putting pressure on the trigger from the 2 o’clock position with my index finger - with counter pressure from my thumb from the 8o’clock position. This offsetting pressures keeps the crosshairs from moving - both horizontally and vertically.

How do you feel regarding trigger pressure - what is your technique - hoping that you will share some insights.

I agree that with PCP “recoilless” rifles - definitely try to minimize touch/pressure points on the rifle… I only touch the triger when shooting - nothing else.

-Ed

You’re very much welcome Ed.

My triggers are light. Only 2 ounces to 3 oz. depending on what rifle I use. I have severe CTS (Carpal Tunnel Syndrome) and I can’t feel my trigger finger. It is only my muscle memory that makes me shoot well but sometimes I do encounter the dreaded “misfires” during competitions causing my scores to go low.

Regular practice on a daily basis is essentia. If you fail to meet your goal (high score), rinse and repeat. Also try different holds until you discover what’s perfect for your particular rifle because not all rifles have the same hold.

All my practice videos are found here… https://m.facebook.com/groups/254960076057457/?ref=share

I also video record all my practice sessions which adds “pressure”, that’s why I never post pictures of scorecards without any video backup.

-Ricky

 

[tommyb]

Shot some 30 and 40y cards today. Very light wind and range was not crowded.

I shot four 40Y Challenge cards and best I could do was a 191.

Shot three or four 30Y cards and will submit one Masters for leaderboard. I missed quite a few 10 rings with some misreads on slight wind.

Leaderboard submission for November

FX Royale 400 .22
Leupold EFR 6.5 X 20X 40 AO 2FP
30Y Masters
JSB 18.1 at 873 FPS
198-11X

 

[TheAirgunnero]

Shot some 30 and 40y cards today. Very light wind and range was not crowded.

I shot four 40Y Challenge cards and best I could do was a 191.

Shot three or four 30Y cards and will submit one Masters for leaderboard. I missed quite a few 10 rings with some misreads on slight wind.

Leaderboard submission for November

FX Royale 400 .22
Leupold EFR 6.5 X 20X 40 AO 2FP
30Y Masters
JSB 18.1 at 873 FPS
198-11X

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Try shooting the 18’s at around 890 to 940fps

 

[tommyb]

Try shooting the 18’s at around 890 to 940fps

Thanks Ricky

I can try it, but I’m curious as to why you think 890-920 FPS increase in velocity, may be more accurate? Do you have any insight here? The Royale has a Smooth Twist barrel, and has a reputation for great accuracy. Would that be too fast?

As an example, I switched to the 20.83 JSB lights and with my same tune, the velocity is in the 815-830 range depending on outside temp. Very accurate at that velocity.

 

[TheAirgunnero]

Thanks Ricky

I can try it, but I’m curious as to why you think 890-920 FPS increase in velocity, may be more accurate? Do you have any insight here? The Royale has a Smooth Twist barrel, and has a reputation for great accuracy. Would that be too fast?

As an example, I switched to the 20.83 JSB lights and with my same tune, the velocity is in the 815-830 range depending on outside temp. Very accurate at that velocity.

Tom,

As far as I can remember (12 years ago) I played around with different speeds and different reg settings on the Royale. The best groups I could get at
70 yards using 2011 JSB 18.13gr unsorted pellets was between 890-935fps.

Here’s an old video…

 

[tommyb]

Tom,

As far as I can remember (12 years ago) I played around with different speeds and different reg settings on the Royale. The best groups I could get at
70 yards using 2011 JSB 18.13gr unsorted pellets was between 890-935fps.

Here’s an old video…

Thanks Ricky!

Just watched your video. Three solid groups at 70 yards!!

Q. Do you think or feel that I would benefit from increasing my velocity to 890-920 range, for 30Y only target shooting? Same question for 50Y shooting? I think you made a pretty good case for 70y groups in that video, so not questioning your results there.

I’m asking only because I “think” the increased velocity might not provide any better accuracy than I’m already getting.

It’s easy for me to play with the HS only, and test out the accuracy, but I don’t really want to mess with the Huma reg right now at 150 FPS.

Thoughts?

 

[TheAirgunnero]

Thanks Ricky!

Just watched your video. Three solid groups at 70 yards!!

Q. Do you think or feel that I would benefit from increasing my velocity to 890-920 range, for 30Y only target shooting? Same question for 50Y shooting? I think you made a pretty good case for 70y groups in that video, so not questioning your results there.

I’m asking only because I “think” the increased velocity might not provide any better accuracy than I’m already getting.

It’s easy for me to play with the HS only, and test out the accuracy, but I don’t really want to mess with the Huma reg right now at 150 FPS.

Thoughts?

Tom,

Just try to increase your velocity (890fps minimum) and see the results. I always tell my teammates and friends to try different speeds and settings until they get very good results. It is a meticulous process, takes a lot of patience, lots of pellets and at the end is SUCCESS! This applies to one single pellet tin (batch and brand) since not all pellets are the same and come from the same mold.

Do not touch your regulator and just fine tune your HS tension.

-Ricky

 

[tommyb]

Hi Ricky

Ok, turned up HS today on Royale. I accidentally forgot my JSB 18.13 pellets, but I did bring the JSB 20.83g “lights.”

Shot a 196-14X 30 Y Challenge card at 848 FPS. Pretty sure the 18.1 g will get to 890-900 FPS at this tune. Edit - I inadvertently wrote the RAW on the card, but it actually was the FX Royale .22. Excuse the typo.

 

[tommyb]

Shot a 40y Challenge card with the RAW HM1000x .22 today.

New Leaderboard update for this rifle. 196-13X with JTS 25.39g. I really want a 200 with this gun, and she deserves a better score. ‘She’ needs to tell the shooter/owner to slow down and read the wind.

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[EPG]

Shot a 40y Challenge card with the RAW HM1000x .22 today.

New Leaderboard update for this rifle. 196-13X with JTS 25.39g. I really want a 200 with this gun, and she deserves a better score. ‘She’ needs to tell the shooter/owner to slow down and read the wind.

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Awesome shoot’ TommyB !

It had some fun shooting my PowerPup today, but didn’t shoot any cards. It was shooting great at 40 yards, but wind was crazy and shifting.

 

[TheAirgunnero]

Tom and Ed,

Don’t stick to one batch of pellets. Try to find different pellet tins that don’t have the same batch number (found underneath the can). If you both find the pellet batch that matches your barrels, HOARD them.

-Ricky

 

[tommyb]

Ricky

Here’s the situation in the U.S.

If you order pellets from any of the online ammo providers, my experience is that you cannot request different batch numbers. You get what they give you!

For my .22LRs , I can request different “lots” for the same ammo. Cannot do this with pellets.

So…..very hard to select batch / lot#’s for pellets.

 

[beerthief]

Ricky

Here’s the situation in the U.S.

If you order pellets from any of the online ammo providers, my experience is that you cannot request different batch numbers. You get what they give you!

For my .22LRs , I can request different “lots” for the same ammo. Cannot do this with pellets.

So…..very hard to select batch / lot#’s for pel

try calling AOA and talk to sales , might work ?