Had another great morning with little wind, shot a few cards. This is my second with the Red Wolf, the first was another 198...Now I get to start on the other challenges 
. Cheers! Rick
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Had another great morning with little wind, shot a few cards. This is my second with the Red Wolf, the first was another 198...Now I get to start on the other challenges
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Congratulations on your 200 15X Rick! Awesome shooting with that Red Wolf !
Your next challenge… print out the 30 Yard Masters card and start work on another 200.
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So what has Ed been up to…? Well, we had 14 people over yesterday for annual Christmas Chili (Texas chili - no beans) party. So I had to clean up my “Airgun Room” - 2nd living room over the garage. It took me hours to clean it up. I’m not saying I had more airgun parts and ammo and tools laying around than Ricky the Airgunnero’s garage… but I think there was.
Anyway, today it warmed up to 42 degrees, I had a bit of a hangover, figured I’d try these new JTS 22.07g pellets in the Crown Mk 2 with 700mm barrel. Fresh cold air felt good.
Check out these results - very breezy (note wind flags- at 40 and then 47 yards. I’m gonna get these JTS working on 40-Masters on the next nice day.
NAProf, you thought the JSB 18s were better than the JTS 18s in your Crowns. I’ve got a bunch of JTS 22g and JSB 20.83g - so I’ll do a comparison shoot off and let you know which pellet wins.
-Ed
Anyway, today it warmed up to 42 degrees, I had a bit of a hangover, figured I’d try these new JTS 22.07g pellets in the Crown Mk 2 with 700mm barrel. Fresh cold air felt good.
Check out these results - very breezy (note wind flags- at 40 and then 47 yards. I’m gonna get these JTS working on 40-Masters on the next nice day.
NAProf, you thought the JSB 18s were better than the JTS 18s in your Crowns. I’ve got a bunch of JTS 22g and JSB 20.83g - so I’ll do a comparison shoot off and let you know which pellet wins.
-Ed
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Hey Rick,
Skip the 30y Masters and jump right in at 40Y. You’re ready. Great 200-15x with the RW!
I’m guessing you like the 25g at 970’ish.
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Yes, it was your advice that led me down that road, thanks! On mid power, I can shoot two cards and some sighters without stopping to refill. And the trigger just takes some time to figure out. I don't even touch it until I'm settled. But, I'm going to shoot both the 40yds and the 30 Masters, I love the challenge that you guys deliver. My back yard range reaches 50 meters...
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Ed,
Those are very tight groups at 40y in a ‘ no wind ‘ situation, so even better considering it was windy. I am surprised they were as tight as they were in wind. No fliers anywhere. Group #4 was amazing.
I do like the JTS pellets. Harder alloy than JSB, but something about them makes me smile.
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Great suggestion I got this one and it seems very solid with nice adjustments. Much better than the cheaper flimsy ones that would flex alot.
Be careful if order from this link, many different products listed you have to click on the right photo for the lift!
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Hi Guys,
Surprised to have a short period this morning with very little wind. Got out the trusty GM Crown Mk II with the .177 500 mm barrel. It has been shooting really well this whole fall using FX 13.4 gr pellets. But recently have had some accuracy issues. Turns out I ran out of my old batch of 4.52mm head pellets and all the new ones are 4.54mm or greater. The barrel doesn't seem to like them as much (little difference - low 190's instead of high 190's for a typical 30 yd Masters card).
So I checked the pellets over before loading my mags and went out to shoot. The 30 yd Masters was a 191-13X. Two bad flyers (one a 6 and one an 8) and a couple of 9's will do that. Just for grins I shot a 40yd Challenge. Much better. 197-13x. Still had one bad flyer for a 6, but got to x that out.
I was puzzled about the flyers and just what was happening with these pellets. So, I broke out the used LabRadar I picked up on EBay for a steal. This is the first time I tried it with .177 pellets. I took me 1 mag to get the barrel and radar oriented well enough that it was picking up the pellets out to 50 yds. The second mag got pretty good consistent results. When analyzing the velocity vs time data for each shot it is obvious which pellet files true for the full distance, which starts out bad, and which ones start to spiral past 30 yards or so. Now I have to figure out how to correlate that info to what a pellet looks like before shooting or correlate it to wind gusts. Hmmm, more stuff to spend my retirement time doing .
Cheers,
Greg
Surprised to have a short period this morning with very little wind. Got out the trusty GM Crown Mk II with the .177 500 mm barrel. It has been shooting really well this whole fall using FX 13.4 gr pellets. But recently have had some accuracy issues. Turns out I ran out of my old batch of 4.52mm head pellets and all the new ones are 4.54mm or greater. The barrel doesn't seem to like them as much (little difference - low 190's instead of high 190's for a typical 30 yd Masters card).
So I checked the pellets over before loading my mags and went out to shoot. The 30 yd Masters was a 191-13X. Two bad flyers (one a 6 and one an 8) and a couple of 9's will do that. Just for grins I shot a 40yd Challenge. Much better. 197-13x. Still had one bad flyer for a 6, but got to x that out.
I was puzzled about the flyers and just what was happening with these pellets. So, I broke out the used LabRadar I picked up on EBay for a steal. This is the first time I tried it with .177 pellets. I took me 1 mag to get the barrel and radar oriented well enough that it was picking up the pellets out to 50 yds. The second mag got pretty good consistent results. When analyzing the velocity vs time data for each shot it is obvious which pellet files true for the full distance, which starts out bad, and which ones start to spiral past 30 yards or so. Now I have to figure out how to correlate that info to what a pellet looks like before shooting or correlate it to wind gusts. Hmmm, more stuff to spend my retirement time doing
.Cheers,
Greg
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Hi Guys,
Surprised to have a short period this morning with very little wind. Got out the trusty GM Crown Mk II with the .177 500 mm barrel. It has been shooting really well this whole fall using FX 13.4 gr pellets. But recently have had some accuracy issues. Turns out I ran out of my old batch of 4.52mm head pellets and all the new ones are 4.54mm or greater. The barrel doesn't seem to like them as much (little difference - low 190's instead of high 190's for a typical 30 yd Masters card).
So I checked the pellets over before loading my mags and went out to shoot. The 30 yd Masters was a 191-13X. Two bad flyers (one a 6 and one an 8) and a couple of 9's will do that. Just for grins I shot a 40yd Challenge. Much better. 197-13x. Still had one bad flyer for a 6, but got to x that out.
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I was puzzled about the flyers and just what was happening with these pellets. So, I broke out the used LabRadar I picked up on EBay for a steal. This is the first time I tried it with .177 pellets. I took me 1 mag to get the barrel and radar oriented well enough that it was picking up the pellets out to 50 yds. The second mag got pretty good consistent results. When analyzing the velocity vs time data for each shot it is obvious which pellet files true for the full distance, which starts out bad, and which ones start to spiral past 30 yards or so. Now I have to figure out how to correlate that info to what a pellet looks like before shooting or correlate it to wind gusts. Hmmm, more stuff to spend my retirement time doing
Cheers,
Greg
Hi Greg,
Nice cards, the 40 yard card is awesome in .177.
For me, it’s harder to spot bad pellets in .177 - simply because they are smaller. Often I’m shooting in dimming light, as that is when the wind dies down here - I need reading glasses in dim light, that makes it tough to see any pellet deformation.
Tommy and I have discussed a few times that a crazy flier could be from loading the pellet backward.
I‘m really susceptible to this as you know that I almost never use magazines, I load each pellet into the breech by hand. Sometimes I use a single shot tray. I prefer to use my left hand to load. I literally just grab pellets out of the tin - I’m amazed that we don’t get more fliers than we do.
I know that I’ve wrecked cards with my .177 Dreamline by loading pellets backwards. I use a CARM single shot mag that flips out - and it flips out on the right side, so I have to load with my right hand - and I’m sitting on the opposite side of the rifle, so my eyes are further away.
I’m thinking that I should start using magazines, to see if accuracy decreases - as I’ve likely got $1,000 worth of magazines laying around doing nothing, lol.
But I just kinda like loading by hand.
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I often just shoot the way I like too. But I almost never single load. I have tried it but couldn't convince myself it helped. I like CARM magazines. But even SPA magazines with heavier springs and aluminum bodies do not seem to hurt my scores.
I am trying my Rock BR rest more currently. Still doesn't seem as natural as a bipod and my home made rear rest but it has a lot less backlash. The main reason to use it is I have a large lead piece, about 5 lbs, bolted in place of the Pic rail on my stock and the lead fits into the Calwell rest well. I shot a 195 on the 30 yard Masters target with it yesterday in low wind. My best is a 196 with the same gun without the weight, however. So the jury is still out.
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My fliers seem to be me or the wind or possibly a pellet flaw.
I am trying my Rock BR rest more currently. Still doesn't seem as natural as a bipod and my home made rear rest but it has a lot less backlash. The main reason to use it is I have a large lead piece, about 5 lbs, bolted in place of the Pic rail on my stock and the lead fits into the Calwell rest well. I shot a 195 on the 30 yard Masters target with it yesterday in low wind. My best is a 196 with the same gun without the weight, however. So the jury is still out.
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My fliers seem to be me or the wind or possibly a pellet flaw.
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Couple pictures. P35-22 in home made cherry stock with Athlon Argos 10-40 scope on top with a large block of lead bolted where the Pic rail normally is.
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Cold start this morning at the range. 36 degrees, but wind started out light.
Shot the RAW TM1000x .177 today with the FX 13.4g pellets. I shot four 40Y Challenge cards and my best was a 195-9X.
My very first shot was 764 FPS on the Garmin Chrono, and tried a few more and I knew I had to tweak the HS and increase velocity because of cold temps.
Martin puts a nice carve out behind the HS screw so you can adjust with the rifle in the stock and supported in your rests, so you don’t have to move the gun. Why oh why don’t all the AG manufacturers do the same? So simple and easy for bench tuning.
Not my best, and once wind picked up I had three or four different holds shooting each card so got some 7’s, 8,s and a lot of 9’s.
Nothing for the leaderboard. I had the range to myself.
Shot the RAW TM1000x .177 today with the FX 13.4g pellets. I shot four 40Y Challenge cards and my best was a 195-9X.
My very first shot was 764 FPS on the Garmin Chrono, and tried a few more and I knew I had to tweak the HS and increase velocity because of cold temps.
Martin puts a nice carve out behind the HS screw so you can adjust with the rifle in the stock and supported in your rests, so you don’t have to move the gun. Why oh why don’t all the AG manufacturers do the same? So simple and easy for bench tuning.
Not my best, and once wind picked up I had three or four different holds shooting each card so got some 7’s, 8,s and a lot of 9’s.
Nothing for the leaderboard. I had the range to myself.
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Temperature hit 45 here today, so I got out to shoot a card. Grabbed the trusty ole RTI Prophet Performance V1 with the .22 Long Range pellet barrel - slow 1:32 twist rate.
Breeze was moderate. Best shooting day in a while.
Used the JSB 20.83g that it seems to like as well as basic hollow FX moderator.
40-Masters: 194 12X - I’m happy with that.
I tried some groups with JTS 22.07g but they were not as tight. Velocity was only 850fps with the JTS - so maybe they will get better with some hammer spring tweaking with the Prophet.
Shot a 189 10X 40-Masters a few days ago with FX Crown with 700mm barrel. It was 29 degrees and I was getting PoI shifts. My experience with PCPs is that once temps are below freezing, the rifles and scopes show some shifting. My hands turned blue and went numb - so that was the last card till it warmed up today.
Hope you guys are staying warm and getting some lead downrange.
Breeze was moderate. Best shooting day in a while.
Used the JSB 20.83g that it seems to like as well as basic hollow FX moderator.
40-Masters: 194 12X - I’m happy with that.
I tried some groups with JTS 22.07g but they were not as tight. Velocity was only 850fps with the JTS - so maybe they will get better with some hammer spring tweaking with the Prophet.
Shot a 189 10X 40-Masters a few days ago with FX Crown with 700mm barrel. It was 29 degrees and I was getting PoI shifts. My experience with PCPs is that once temps are below freezing, the rifles and scopes show some shifting. My hands turned blue and went numb - so that was the last card till it warmed up today.
Hope you guys are staying warm and getting some lead downrange.
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Yesterday I did some airgunsmithing - which included installing an FX carbon fiber sleeve on my 700mm .22 Crown barrel.
Its above freezing today, so I wanted to try it out. It’s snowing, but wind conditions were mild.
The changes really moved my PoI, had to rezero scope as PoI was about 5 inches high and 3 inches left!
Dialed the Sightron to where the 1st sighter hit and immediately the Crown was hitting the white sighter dot.
20 shots later, 196 11X 40-Masters, can’t let a little snow stop ya from getting lead downrange, lol. Velocity was 890-900fps.
As I single load each shot into the barrel, I had to keep the lid on the pellets so that they stayed dry between shots.
Ya gotta wanna ! Winter shooting is lots of fun - just shorter sessions.
-Ed
Its above freezing today, so I wanted to try it out. It’s snowing, but wind conditions were mild.
The changes really moved my PoI, had to rezero scope as PoI was about 5 inches high and 3 inches left!
Dialed the Sightron to where the 1st sighter hit and immediately the Crown was hitting the white sighter dot.
20 shots later, 196 11X 40-Masters, can’t let a little snow stop ya from getting lead downrange, lol. Velocity was 890-900fps.
As I single load each shot into the barrel, I had to keep the lid on the pellets so that they stayed dry between shots.
Ya gotta wanna ! Winter shooting is lots of fun - just shorter sessions.
-Ed
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Amazingly high score here Ed! Some day I want to post a 195 or better at 40Y Masters, but I get freaked out knowing I don’t have my two Mulligan pairs, so I just shoot the 40Y challenge cards. Ha ha..
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