30-Yard Challenge

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Long story longer, been preoccupied with squirrels lately and noticed to be having pass through with the 18.3 gr AEAs. Decided to revisit the JSB Grands 28.55 for slower speed and energy dump. They shot well enough, but since I was at the bench anyway, decided to just verify the trusty AEA pellets. Just 4 shots on the Queen's flower (sounds kind of dirty), but might have sparked an urge to shoot a card...
 
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Well, my results this morning were not stellar to say the least. 9 or 10 is all I can get......I shot a perfect 12 but 24 in a row is a challenge in frustration. Maybe I'll revisit this in the summer when I'm not so depressed! :cry::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

In my circle of friends I'm nicknamed either Leupold or Eagle eye. I just don't miss when hunting!

My hats off to you folks that can pull this off......Most impressive shooting, I'm unworthy! :love:(y)
 
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Not sure where to post this? So I am here.
I reduced the WARB target to fit 5x7 sheets of paper and shot this target at 17yds inside (most I can get) not bad but scored with my .22 plug! Which I feel to big for scale? so will try again tonight or tomorrow with.177 plug.
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I finally shot a target and am submitting it for the spreadsheet. It is literally my first of the year. 192 6X I think. I've been waiting for warmer less windy weather but finally just gave it a shot. It's 53 with 8mph winds according to the weather report. I know that's a lot warmer than some of you but it feels cold to me. I was using my P35-22 with my Athlon 10-40 set at 36X. It isn't a great target for this gun but it makes it fairly easy for me to post something better. I've also done significantly worse before.

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JimD said:
I finally shot a target and am submitting it for the spreadsheet. It is literally my first of the year. 192 6X I think. I've been waiting for warmer less windy weather but finally just gave it a shot. It's 53 with 8mph winds according to the weather report. I know that's a lot warmer than some of you but it feels cold to me. I was using my P35-22 with my Athlon 10-40 set at 36X. It isn't a great target for this gun but it makes it fairly easy for me to post something better. I've also done significantly worse before.

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Hey Jim, Happy New Year. You're on the board early in 2025, so that's what counts. 190+ anything is a very solid score, and especially with 8 mph. That's like a Cat 1 hurricane for my wind preferences.
 
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Hi Guys!
Along with everyone else on this coast we have had crappy weather since the start of the year. It finally warmed up enough for me to trudge through the remaining snow and set up a 30 yd target - first of the year. I figured I would try an easier one to kick the year off. Light wind and above 40 deg so I got out the FT Crown rig and had a go.
Had a really good card 198-17x except I can't submit it for the leader board. On the second target in block 8 I managed to pull the trigger before getting the reticle on target (See marked hole on the line between 8 and 10 blocks.). I was pissed! But decided to just shoot out the rest of the card to see what I could get. Of course, the next shot was a clean bullseye on that target. Anyway, it started to rain as I finished and will now have to wait for the poler vortex to go away before trying again. Oh well, what could have been.
Cheers,
Greg
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NAProf said:
Hi Guys!
Along with everyone else on this coast we have had crappy weather since the start of the year. It finally warmed up enough for me to trudge through the remaining snow and set up a 30 yd target - first of the year. I figured I would try an easier one to kick the year off. Light wind and above 40 deg so I got out the FT Crown rig and had a go.
Had a really good card 198-17x except I can submit it for the leader board. On the second target in block 8 I managed to pull the trigger before getting the reticle on target (See marked hole on the line between 8 and 10 blocks.). I was pissed! But decided to just shoot out the rest of the card to see what I could get. Of course, the next shot was a clean bullseye on that target. Anyway, it started to rain as I finished and will now have to wait for the poler vortex to go away before trying again. Oh well, what could have been.
Cheers,
Greg
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Nice card Greg. Those FX 13.4’s seem to like 800-820 FPS velocities.

Assume your trigger pull is light, around 4-6oz? Reason I mention is because that I have accidentally released trigger more than a couple times with my light triggers.
 
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tommyb said:
Nice card Greg. Those FX 13.4’s seem to like 800-820 FPS velocities.

Assume your trigger pull is light, around 4-6oz? Reason I mention is because that I have accidentally released trigger more than a couple times with my light triggers.
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Thanks Tommy,
Yep, the 13.4's do well at that speed range. I have to say that I really haven't spent any effort to see if they are better at the typical 860-880fps range as keeping them below 820fps makes me legal for Hunter Class FT (max of 20 FPE).
You are spot on with the trigger pull. I might have to tighten up the 2nd stage to avoid this as I did it more than once shooting in matches offhand.

Cheers,
Greg
 
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WoodWelder said:
Well, my results this morning were not stellar to say the least. 9 or 10 is all I can get......I shot a perfect 12 but 24 in a row is a challenge in frustration. Maybe I'll revisit this in the summer when I'm not so depressed! :cry::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

In my circle of friends I'm nicknamed either Leupold or Eagle eye. I just don't miss when hunting!

My hats off to you folks that can pull this off......Most impressive shooting, I'm unworthy! :love:(y)
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not unworthy ? you just need some practice is all , bet if you slow down ,think every shot .
Stan in KY .
 
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What is classified as a 10 and an X?
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Danny, a couple things:

If a hole touches the 10 ring ( with .22 scoring plug) it’s a 10. Same with an ‘X’. The iPhone camera, as an example, doesn’t always capture what you can see with the naked eye using a scoring plug. I have looked at many of my posts after submitting my score, and I can understand why others may have thought it was a point lower or not really an ‘X.’ I have had to go back a couple of times to amend my score, as some times it’s so close to touching the ring, I had to use a magnifying glass to verify the accuracy.

All that said, it’s an informal semi competitive target challenge, and unlike real BR competitions where there is a scoring judge to score cards, we rely on the honor system of each of us to ‘try’ to use the plug to help achieve accurate scoring.

The scoring rules are described a few times throughout the thread. A lot of practice helps higher scores. And having a ‘wind angel’ on your shoulder really helps. 😀
 
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Maybe I don't know how to read a card?

I see a clear 8 that is called a 9; I see clear 9 that is called a Bull.....What am I missing, is there a very fine tare in the paper I can't see?

The reason I ask, I was only going for bulls?

I'll shoot another card today and let you guys read it! ;)
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Hi Woodwelder,

As TommyB said, our “official rules” (for our informal Challenge) uses a .22 caliber scoring gauge plug. Many of us use this:

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22 Cal Scoring Gauge with Magnifier Smallbore for ISSF - Freeland's Sports LLC

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Freeland has many scoring plugs in all calibers. They offer an identical one to the one I linked above in .177 caliber. Sometimes I use my .177 plug when shooting .177 - just to see how different it scores vs. the .22 plug.

When you shoot in 100 yard benchrest competitions, the rules often have them using a . 35 caliber scoring plug. The guys shooting .22 caliber pellets in the 100 Yard competition see a lot of shots score higher than the original hole - due to the larger plug. The plug equalizes the scoring across all calibers.

-Ed
 
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EPG said:
Hi Woodwelder,

As TommyB said, our “official rules” (for our informal Challenge) uses a .22 caliber scoring gauge plug. Many of us use this:

freelandssports.com

22 Cal Scoring Gauge with Magnifier Smallbore for ISSF - Freeland's Sports LLC

freelandssports.com freelandssports.com

Freeland has many scoring plugs in all calibers. They offer an identical one to the one I linked above in .177 caliber. Sometimes I use my .177 plug when shooting .177 - just to see how different it scores vs. the .22 plug.

When you shoot in 100 yard benchrest competitions, the rules often have them using a . 35 caliber scoring plug. The guys shooting .22 caliber pellets in the 100 Yard competition see a lot of shots score higher than the original hole - due to the larger plug. The plug equalizes the scoring across all calibers.

-Ed
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I wondered what was meant by plug.......I'll find and purchase one. With the iphone pic and unaware of a plug it all makes sense now. (y)

Edit: I might as well pickup an MOA coin as well.......I'm retiring in less than 8 months, I'll need something to do!
 
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WoodWelder said:
Maybe I don't know how to read a card?

I see a clear 8 that is called a 9; I see clear 9 that is called a Bull.....What am I missing, is there a very fine tare in the paper I can't see?

The reason I ask, I was only going for bulls?

I'll shoot another card today and let you guys read it! ;)
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Hi WoodWelder,
It certainly does appear that I am overly generous with the scoring. But you need to understand about scoring plugs. Since I am shooting .177 pellets and someone else might be shooting .22 pellets, how do we make the scoring fair. Obviously, we should score by the hole center - but we can't. We score by the outer edge of the hole. But a .22 and .177 hitting exactly the same center will have two different outside edges. Thus, the scoring plug. Attached below is a link to a site where you can order the plugs. Basically the plug has a metal pin with the same diameter of the caliber of the pellets you are shooting. so if you put it in the hole you are centered in the hole. Higher up it has a flange (or clear ring with an inscribed circle) which has the the approved diameter for the class of target you are shooting. In our case it is a .22 caliber. The actual diameter of the outer rings is 5.66 mm. Yes, it is .1mm larger than the standard for .22, but the pellet diameters vary quite a bit.
A target scored with a plug will give a different score than if you just use the edges of the hole. It also allows you to compare scores from different caliber rifles. In the big 100yd benchrest competitions they typicall score with a .30 caliber plug so shoots can use any caliber that size or smaller.
Get a plug for your caliber and enjoy the scoring process. !
Cheers,
Greg

PS - Just for grins I am attaching an Excel plot of the 20 shots used to score that target at a 5.66mm diameter. One MOA at 30 yds is 7.98mm. Yes, I am a complete Excel nerd.
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Scoring Gauge - Freeland's Sports LLC

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NAProf said:
Hi WoodWelder,
It certainly does appear that I am overly generous with the scoring. But you need to understand about scoring plugs. Since I am shooting .177 pellets and someone else might be shooting .22 pellets, how do we make the scoring fair. Obviously, we should score by the hole center - but we can't. We score by the outer edge of the hole. But a .22 and .177 hitting exactly the same center will have two different outside edges. Thus, the scoring plug. Attached below is a link to a site where you can order the plugs. Basically the plug has a metal pin with the same diameter of the caliber of the pellets you are shooting. so if you put it in the hole you are centered in the hole. Higher up it has a flange (or clear ring with an inscribed circle) which has the the approved diameter for the class of target you are shooting. In our case it is a .22 caliber. The actual diameter of the outer rings is 5.66 mm. Yes, it is .1mm larger than the standard for .22, but the pellet diameters vary quite a bit.
A target scored with a plug will give a different score than if you just use the edges of the hole. It also allows you to compare scores from different caliber rifles. In the big 100yd benchrest competitions they typicall score with a .30 caliber plug so shoots can use any caliber that size or smaller.
Get a plug for your caliber and enjoy the scoring process. !
Cheers,
Greg

PS - Just for grins I am attaching an Excel plot of the 20 shots used to score that target at a 5.66mm diameter. One MOA at 30 yds is 7.98mm. Yes, I am a complete Excel nerd.
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Scoring Gauge - Freeland's Sports LLC

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Hi Greg,
I wasn't singling out anyone as I have seen other cards that made no sense to me how they were counted.

I knew there had to be an explanation, I was only looking for clarity as I'm a meticulous SOB as well. :LOL::ROFLMAO:

Thank You,
Gary
 
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