Excellent shooting for sure. The CZ barrels are great, I only hear good things about them.
My little .177 S200 is very accurate and a pleasure to shoot.
Looking like you’re going to be getting a 200 and a lot of X’s soon, nicely done.
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My little .177 S200 is very accurate and a pleasure to shoot.
Looking like you’re going to be getting a 200 and a lot of X’s soon, nicely done.
Isn't the scoring bias towards large calibers? Assuming equal accuracy much easier scoring 200 if you use a .45 rather than 0.177.
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It does seem like a bigger caliber could be an advantage but I don't see it in shooting my guns or in the overall scoring. There are many 200s using 177s - but they do get an "advantage" of using a 22 scoring pin.
I tried a tin of slugs in my P35-22 - my best scoring gun. I only have one tin which I got by mistake from Pyramid Air and they are 25 grain .218 H&N Slug HPs. I scored the target at 171. Not as good as it does with Baracuda Match but pretty decent for an inexpensive gun shooting slugs. They are going 760-770 fps. I may try some lighter ones sometime. They didn't seem to help with wind drift but they were also going about 80 fps slower than the pellets I normally shoot. I should probably get an assortment and see what it likes the best.
I tried a tin of slugs in my P35-22 - my best scoring gun. I only have one tin which I got by mistake from Pyramid Air and they are 25 grain .218 H&N Slug HPs. I scored the target at 171. Not as good as it does with Baracuda Match but pretty decent for an inexpensive gun shooting slugs. They are going 760-770 fps. I may try some lighter ones sometime. They didn't seem to help with wind drift but they were also going about 80 fps slower than the pellets I normally shoot. I should probably get an assortment and see what it likes the best.
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In theory, you would think that is the case. In reality, the .177s have consistently scored the best. Please note that .177 shooters use a .224 (or so) plug for their scoring. Due to the differences, I recently split out the .177 group from .22 caliber and up. My guess is that the really good target shooters use .177 more than other calibers, and that is why the .177 scoring is usually higher. The largest caliber to ever submit a score was a .30 cal Impact that shot a 197. Give it a try @BlackICE.
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As a new member, I would like to know the make of the scope, power setting used, and reticle type which could be listed on the target, or mentioned in the posting. Thank you.
MMLJ
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Hello MMLJ
For my .177 Cal FX Crown MK II I use a Athlon 8-34x56 with a FFP ATMR MOA Reticle and for 30-yard and further Full Power.
On my RAW HM1000X .22 cal I use a Athlon 10-40x56 BLR SFP MOA and Full Power for 30-yards and further.
Most likely there will be a big variety of different scopes used by those that enjoyed the Competition, hope this will help.
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Ok. Shot a couple cards one was no better than previous using Zan. One is slightly better.
Score 173 with 3x. (Factory Springer)
TX 200 MkIII.
.177
AA Diabolo 8.4 with 4.51 head
Vortex Diamondback Tactical 6-24x50 set at x24
Temp 90F
Wind 0 to 5 intermittent from behind and left.
Front Rest Caldwell Rock BR with towels.
Rear Rest Protekor #13 on 1" board.
Wood Bench shaky and uncomfortable but not a hindering.
Scored using. 22 ARA plug.
Score 173 with 3x. (Factory Springer)
TX 200 MkIII.
.177
AA Diabolo 8.4 with 4.51 head
Vortex Diamondback Tactical 6-24x50 set at x24
Temp 90F
Wind 0 to 5 intermittent from behind and left.
Front Rest Caldwell Rock BR with towels.
Rear Rest Protekor #13 on 1" board.
Wood Bench shaky and uncomfortable but not a hindering.
Scored using. 22 ARA plug.
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I was testing some pellets today in my .22 Air Venturi Avenger. Scope is an Athlon Talos SFP 6-24 on 20 power. First target with el cheapo Wally World Crosman’s Premier HP 14.3 pellets. Wind was 3-5 with gusts to 8 which was kicking my butt. The wind was especially unfriendly to the light weight CPHP pellets. This target is added wrong and it’s only 193.
next is JSB 18’s
Finally Air Arms 18’s.
All targets were shot off a $20 eBay bipod and Dollar Store / home made rear scrunch bag. This is my budget friendly rifle that continues to surprise me and bring smiles to my wrinkly face for the money invested.
next is JSB 18’s
Finally Air Arms 18’s.
All targets were shot off a $20 eBay bipod and Dollar Store / home made rear scrunch bag. This is my budget friendly rifle that continues to surprise me and bring smiles to my wrinkly face for the money invested.
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Hey guys….it’s important to understand that a pellet will rise in a left to right and drop in a right to left wind. This is exactly the opposite of Rimfire or other spin stabilized bullets with a rearward CG. A Rimfire wind rose will steer you wrong.
Mike
Mike
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Well igolfat8, that’s fine shooting for certain! Shows that you don’t need a RedWolf to score excellent cards!
Very nicely done, isn’t this a blast?
Very nicely done, isn’t this a blast?
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Thanks for sharing that information Mike.
I’ve been seeing certain patterns and noticing things like you mentioned with pellets in wind, but I haven’t been able to figure it out yet.
Having another clue is going to be helpful!
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Thanks for that info Mike. Interesting that it correlates to the projectiles CG. I wondered if it had something to do with the barrel's twist direction.
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It comes from the relationship of the CG vs the center of pressure.
It can be changed with twist direction. Most everything is RH twist.
Mike
It can be changed with twist direction. Most everything is RH twist.
Mike
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My main gun for this is my P35 in 22 caliber. It wears an Athlon Talos 6-24x50 and I use it at 24 power. It is my only scope that shows the X dot clearly. I have also tried out my Avenger which has a West Hunter 4-16, my P35-177 which wears a Primary Air 4-16, my P35-25 wearing a Primary Arms 4-14 and my Prod wearing a Hawke 2-7. I had to guess a bit with the 7X Hawke. More magnification and better glass both help. My PA 4-14 is about as easy to place shots with as is my 4-16 power scopes because it's glass is better (but it's recticle is thick which doesn't help).
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Thanks. I thought it was me. Probably still is sometimes. Today I have a left to right wind and had several shots go unexplicably high. Lots to know about wind when you are trying to hit a dot at 30 yards.
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You folks probably already thought this through. I am slow. Note this is based on my running my calipers so error is present.
A score of 200 indicates an average shot score of 10. This on average means best edge on all shots on average hit a .130" spot or smaller.
A score of 190 means an average shot score of 9. This on average means best edge of all shots hit a .303" spot.
A score of 170 has an average shot score of 8.5. This means all shots on average for best edge hit a .439" spot.
A score of 160 has an average shot score of 8. This means on average all shots had a best edge hit on a .575" spot.
A score of 150 has and average shot score of 7.5. This means on average the best edge hit a .705" spot.
Etc.
This put my poor old 173 with hitting a roughly .439" spot at 30 yards over 20 shots. I will take that for sure.
A score of 200 indicates an average shot score of 10. This on average means best edge on all shots on average hit a .130" spot or smaller.
A score of 190 means an average shot score of 9. This on average means best edge of all shots hit a .303" spot.
A score of 170 has an average shot score of 8.5. This means all shots on average for best edge hit a .439" spot.
A score of 160 has an average shot score of 8. This means on average all shots had a best edge hit on a .575" spot.
A score of 150 has and average shot score of 7.5. This means on average the best edge hit a .705" spot.
Etc.
This put my poor old 173 with hitting a roughly .439" spot at 30 yards over 20 shots. I will take that for sure.
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