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357cal said:
It is capable of taking white tails 100 plus. There is plenty of ammo in 357 and the list keeps growing.
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That sounds promising. Is that a double lung shot? I've been told big bore airguns are like hunting with muzzle loaders. Low velocity and heavy large diameter ammo. I'm starting to lean more toward the 357 , but then again there are so many who rant about blood loss through a larger entry exit hole, ergo the 457 vs. the 357 question. I like the ability to take deer out to 100 yards. I typically hunt places where a long range shot would be between 50 and 75 yards but knowing I can stretch it out to 100 yards if the need arises sounds good.

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ray1377 said:
That sounds promising. Is that a double lung shot? I've been told big bore airguns are like hunting with muzzle loaders. Low velocity and heavy large diameter ammo. I'm starting to lean more toward the 357 , but then again there are so many who rant about blood loss through a larger entry exit hole, ergo the 457 vs. the 357 question. I like the ability to take deer out to 100 yards. I typically hunt places where a long range shot would be between 50 and 75 yards but knowing I can stretch it out to 100 yards if the need arises sounds good.

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@ray1377 You have the benefit of very relaxed caliber restrictions in MS. I hunt with a .357 because it’s proven effective. I have yet to see a good blood trail, but they haven’t run far on me with decently placed vital shots. I aim for lungs not the heart. But I’ve also read of others shooting .45 and don’t get great blood trails either. I can only speak from experience here. I’m not yet hunting with semi-wadcutters or wadcutters so it’s hard to say if there’s a noticeable difference. I have been using light hollow points and have gotten passthroughs from 40-65 yards. Dunno how a Mississippi deer compares to an East Texas deer, but ours are relatively small deer. I’m no expert but I hope this helps some. I like watching Michigan Airgunner’s videos because he can keep the scope cam on a running deer and sometimes you can see the blood come from a deer’s wound(s) or nostrils.
 
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Ezana4CE said:
@ray1377 You have the benefit of very relaxed caliber restrictions in MS. I hunt with a .357 because it’s proven effective. I have yet to see a good blood trail, but they haven’t run far on me with decently placed vital shots. I aim for lungs not the heart. But I’ve also read of others shooting .45 and don’t get grey blood trails either. I can only speak form experience here. I’m not yet hunting with semi-wadcutters or wadcutters so it’s hard to say if there’s a noticeable difference. I have been using light hollow points and have gotten passthroughs from 40-65 yards. Dunno how a Mississippi deer compares to an East Texas deer, but ours are relatively small deer. I’m not expert but I hope this helps some. I like watching Michigan Airgunner’s videos because he can keep the scope cam on a running deer and sometimes you can see the blood come from a deer’s wound(s) or nostrils.
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With my PB I usually go for lung and heart shots and there is plenty of blood loss. But a big bore is a different machine compared to that.
I like watching his videos as well. He gets special permits to be able to hunt almost year around to dispatch whitetails. I think he takes a good many head and neck shots. He gets to test a bunch of different big bores and he actually "hunts" with them so we can see how they perform in a real world situation. I like that part for sure. I want to believe he chimed in here last year and suggested a .357 for taking deer. As for mississippi whitetail, our deer average between 150 to over 200 lbs. depending on what part of the state you hunt.
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caliusoptimus said:
I've been watching videos on modern muzzleloaders recently. I'll keep this short but... for deer, they seem to be a better choice than any air rifle, in pretty much every way.
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Yes, I've hunted with muzzle loaders but then again that sort of takes away from the part of killing a deer with an air gun.
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ray1377 said:
If I had the cash laying around at this particular moment in time I would grab that thing in a heartbeat.
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Well keep saving then buy a DAQ used. Back when legal in TN had the .458 LA Outlaw ( a bandit has the cocking lug sticking out the back and I personally would avoid that one unless I knew the owner well) Such a nice rig, "standard" grade walnut that would be called 2+ grade at a show. 2 shots roughly MOA at 100 plenty of power, single cut rifling, great bluing ..... and a hand made in america rifle. Put the Muzzle loader adapter , just a piece that covered the loading port & needed a wrench to install/remove and lent it to a friend in a State where airguns were muzzle loader only for deer. He really enjoined a successful hunt too. Would have kept it but TN law changed - both max cal. and animals- and another shooter was happy to pay what I payed new, and he was happy so.
Have owned a Bulldog. Will hunt (under 50) but no comparison.


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John spysir Blount said:
Well keep saving then buy a DAQ used. Back when legal in TN had the .458 LA Outlaw ( a bandit has the cocking lug sticking out the back and I personally would avoid that one unless I knew the owner well) Such a nice rig, "standard" grade walnut that would be called 2+ grade at a show. 2 shots roughly MOA at 100 plenty of power, single cut rifling, great bluing ..... and a hand made in america rifle. Put the Muzzle loader adapter , just a piece that covered the loading port & needed a wrench to install/remove and lent it to a friend in a State where airguns were muzzle loader only for deer. He really enjoined a successful hunt too. Would have kept it but TN law changed - both max cal. and animals- and another shooter was happy to pay what I payed new, and he was happy so.
Have owned a Bulldog. Will hunt (under 50) but no comparison.


John
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John spysir Blount said:
Well keep saving then buy a DAQ used. Back when legal in TN had the .458 LA Outlaw ( a bandit has the cocking lug sticking out the back and I personally would avoid that one unless I knew the owner well) Such a nice rig, "standard" grade walnut that would be called 2+ grade at a show. 2 shots roughly MOA at 100 plenty of power, single cut rifling, great bluing ..... and a hand made in america rifle. Put the Muzzle loader adapter , just a piece that covered the loading port & needed a wrench to install/remove and lent it to a friend in a State where airguns were muzzle loader only for deer. He really enjoined a successful hunt too. Would have kept it but TN law changed - both max cal. and animals- and another shooter was happy to pay what I payed new, and he was happy so.
Have owned a Bulldog. Will hunt (under 50) but no comparison.


John
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Takes money to play I'm afraid. I'm not able to play like I'd like to but I can dream;)
I'm sure planning on having a big bore before the gun season opens in November.
Leaning heavily toward 45 at this point.
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