48 end of the line

[DesertSilver]

It's a shame they don't make the RWS C Mount anymore. All steel, dual recoil stop screws designed specifically for the 48/52, plenty of elevation and windage adjustment, and rock solid once set. I see them come up on Ebay from time to time. Well worth the investment.

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I have one if anyone wants to make me an offer. I only use ZR mounts but I also don't buy expensive scopes for my 48/52. I did a Hector modd to the 2 I have and don't have any problems with them being loose. Being retired I have way more time than money.

 

[fishing43]

The 48 in 22 cal is a great small game gun, I like mine as I’m sure you will enjoy yours , congrats. And don’t be a quitter lol

 

[Northwoods22]

Are you talking about this product?

Amazon.com

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If you are, they are still selling the RWS C mount at Amazon.

No, I'm talking about the out of production all steel 48/52 "C" mount that has the ability to adjust for both windage and elevation.

Looks like this-

 

[abslayer]

Last gun you say Crow LMAO

 

[cjtamu]

No, I'm talking about the out of production all steel 48/52 "C" mount that has the ability to adjust for both windage and elevation.

Looks like this-

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Actually saw one in Classifieds this morning. Sportsmatch makes very similar in both 1” and 30mm. Put the 1” on my HW35, very happy with it so far. Have a 30mm also that I’m going to mount on my long barrel 97.

 

[crowski]

I got two RWS 54. I got the same problem with droop and shooting off to the side. I hate shimming scopes. Especially on these RWS scope eaters (why put more stress on your scope on these magnum recoilers?). These RWS need an optically centered scope.

I did try modifying these cheap Chinese anti-recoil mounts with limited success. I cut off the top and bolted on a Picatinny rail. I then shim either the front or the back with washers to get the droop I needed. I guess in theory...if your off set the attachment screws on the rail...you could account for the left- right adjustments too. I was thinking of epoxying everything in ...once adjusted.

Very crude...I know...I'm not a trained machinist...just a hacker with too many ideas and tools and not enough experience and time (my dad would have been horrified if he saw this...that man was a mechanical genius)

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Next attempt would be to flip the two mounts upside down, unscrew the top half of the mount and leave them off. That way you don't need to cut the mounts off. Drill holes to attach a flat plate. Then mount the Picatinny rail to the flat plate.... That's going have to wait till I finish my Honeydolist...got a retaining wall that needs my attention.
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lateral and vertical play? just drill more holes and put in centering set screws.

Nice modification. As long as it works.
The last 5 yrs. qualifies me as a retaining wall expert. Crow

Is there a 48/52 that doesn't shoot to the left?
Guess why? Stick a metal rod of the same weight as the cocking lever at the stock's left side to find it shooting straight. Mine did.
Recoil and lateral disbalance is the point.
The 54 should shoot straight though
By the way, those bullseye sliding scope mounts are cool. But I gave mine back for there was lateral and vertical play in it. Don't know if this really was an issue but wouldn't have that. Still cool action.

The ZR mounts are really cool.
I was instructed to drill holes to allow me to mount one of my
Element scopes. Why couldn’t that hole be there in production, so simple. PIA to drill now. I found them sloppy as well. I think Lewis did a post with nylon screws to tighten things up. Again, where’s the R&D department? Pretty sad when this is second or third generation and still a POS. Crow

It's a shame they don't make the RWS C Mount anymore. All steel, dual recoil stop screws designed specifically for the 48/52, plenty of elevation and windage adjustment, and rock solid once set. I see them come up on Ebay from time to time. Well worth the investment.

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Thanks. I’ll watch for them. I like the muzzle end. Crow

G’day Crow my suggestion would be to leave the scope on it and only use the rifle to shoot in the 60 to 100 metre ranges. After all you have the rest of that fantastic collection to shoot in the closer ranges.

Gary

Gary, always a pleasure. My range is to 45 yds. and soon to 50 yds. always shooting springers. In winter when lake freezes I might shoot out to 100. Might… Crow

 

[JEFFPPC]

Hectors ZR mount and 6 screw tuner made my 54. Sub half inch at 50 yds most of the time and sub 1.5 at 100 in perfect conditions. Shot 3 back to back to back 5 shot groups at 20 meters last week that measured in the zeros. JTS pellets. 16.01 indoors and 50 yds outdoors 18.01 JTS at 100. This is on my 54. Should work for you also . The tuner gets rid of the scrappy front sight......an added bonus.

 

[Maker's Marksman]

May I repeat my question, is there a 48/52 that doesn't shoot to the left?
And what do the 54 do? shoot too high or low? I think tha latter, but can't tell for I never had one.
(could have had a 54 for the same price as the 52 but that was even more clumsy than the 52, hard to be though but it was)

I have no problems with my simple monoblock mount and simple Simmons 4x32 scope. Doesn't break, adjustable for any windage and elevation. But Was tricky a bit to fix it properly to the Diana rail from 87. Those rails were a little poor without fixing holes.

By the way, megalomania anywhere. Former 4x25 scopes did as well and were less demanding at mounts but they're no more available.
No need for a 12mm wide exit pupil, I know it should be just 8 mm but it reads 12. Megalomaniac

 

[Northwoods22]

May I repeat my question, is there a 48/52 that doesn't shoot to the left?
And what do the 54 do? shoot too high or low? I think tha latter, but can't tell for I never had one.
(could have had a 54 for the same price as the 52 but that was even more clumsy than the 52, hard to be though but it was)

I have no problems with my simple monoblock mount and simple Simmons 4x32 scope. Doesn't break, adjustable for any windage and elevation. But Was tricky a bit to fix it properly to the Diana rail from 87. Those rails were a little poor without fixing holes.

By the way, megalomania anywhere. Former 4x25 scopes did as well and were less demanding at mounts but they're no more available.
No need for a 12mm wide exit pupil, I know it should be just 8 mm but it reads 12. Megalomaniac

My 48 pictured above has no issues with shooting to the left. All I did was raise the rear ring around 40 thousandths to get the elevation set properly for a 30 yd zero with the Hawke 4x scope I mounted. It's a 2022 production .177 T06. I've never shot or owned a 54.

 

[cjtamu]

Neither my 52 Luxus nor my 56 T/H shoot to the left. Using Hector’s Accurized ZR mount on both. Both extremely accurate.

 

[Maker's Marksman]

I didn't expect the 54 and 56 to shoot left but low.
A nd all 48 and 52 to shoot left. But ok, I have just one example which might be a bit low number for a statistical evidence.
It would be logical tough

 

[crowski]

Just came in from shooting my 54 with a ZR mount.

Lazer. Not left, right or droop. Feels like it’s going to fall apart. Love this gun. Crow

 

[DesertSilver]

My 1987 48/52 doesn't shoot to the left either just low.

 

[.20calguy]

I had an Element scope and used the Diana ZR mount. Needs to be moved forward.View attachment 370521At the lowest setting I was still 6 in. high at 30 yds.
Any suggestions?
Crow

I've been trying these West Hunter rings lately.
I wanted to know what one notch of rear ring elevation would give me in moa. I just measured it at best I could tell, 9 inches at 29/30 yards.
It was 32 moa on my reticle.

I took the reticles MOA measurement and multiplied it X3 for 25 yards to 96. Then I gave the scope 96 clicks of down to be within a quarter inch of bullseye. So approximately 96 clicks of down value per notch of up, on the rear ring. Im using two notches so far on the HW30s trying for 75 yard and back to 30 yard capability.

 

[.20calguy]

Looks so much better. You did a nice job. I will have to change mine. There’s a few to change. Thanks for the tips. Shot this afternoon, blown away. Really nice gun. Instead of dressing it with gem stones they’re using slate. Crow

Ironic you say that. Last week I got my haircut,said to the stylist”bought 5 rifles in May, not 1 in June”, you know how barbers kind of know everything. He say’s “Junes not over yet”. He was right I scooped the 350 magnum on the way home. That AGS is worse than a speed trap for me. Crow

I was hoping to use the ZR mount. Shot them this afternoon, super happy with accuracy. But sight at lowest setting I’m still 6 mill marks above zero.
Can I shim the rear scope mount ?
Crow

The warranty papers on the Element scope says they don't want their scope shimmed.

 

[doninva]

I've been trying these West Hunter rings lately.
I wanted to know what one notch of rear ring elevation would give me in moa. I just measured it at best I could tell, 9 inches at 29/30 yards.
It was 32 moa on my reticle.
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I took the reticles MOA measurement and multiplied it X3 for 25 yards to 96. Then I gave the scope 96 clicks of down to be within a quarter inch of bullseye. So approximately 96 clicks of down value per notch of up, on the rear ring. Im using two notches so far on the HW30s trying for 75 yard and back to 30 yard capability.

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I bought a set of those with the grooves but they don't pivot. I machined the grooves off and drilled and taped for set screws. I fear you may crush your scope due to the rings not pivoting. JMHO, Don

 

[.20calguy]

I bought a set of those with the grooves but they don't pivot. I machined the grooves off and drilled and taped for set screws. I fear you may crush your scope due to the rings not pivoting. JMHO, Don

I got my Infinity rings used so I didn't install them, but they don't seem to have the grooves. I thought they were the same.

 

[cjtamu]

Just came in from shooting my 54 with a ZR mount. View attachment 398203Lazer. Not left, right or droop. Feels like it’s going to fall apart. Love this gun. Crow

ZR mount has droop compensation built in.