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crowski said:
I had an Element scope and used the Diana ZR mount. Needs to be moved forward.View attachment 370521At the lowest setting I was still 6 in. high at 30 yds.
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I had to raise the rear scope ring on my RWS C mount by a few millimeters to get my scope to zero within a workable range of elevation adjustment. Finding a C mount may prove difficult, but UTG makes a drooper mount for the 48/52 that accomplishes the same thing-

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Northwoods22 said:
Crow,

I didn't like the plastic front sight base on my 48 either. I ended up pulling the iron sights completely and installed an old Dianawerk 48/52 steel muzzle weight I had kicking around. I also had an old RWS adjustable steel C mount made specifically for the Diana 48/52. It has dual recoil stop pins. Rock solid.

Mine is a .177 T06. Great shooting rifle. As far as I know the muzzle weight is no longer made, but I do see them for sale on Ebay from time to time. If you end up getting something to replace the plastic front sight base, whatever that may be, make sure it's fully seated against the barrel sleeve and locked on tight. And when you have the front sight base removed, don't pick the gun up by the barrel sleeve, as it will slide right off, and you'll risk dropping the gun. (Don't ask me how I know this).

The gun has a reputation as a scope eater, but after 1000+ rounds through mine the Hawke Vantage 4x32 AO scope I mounted is holding up fine.

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Looks so much better. You did a nice job. I will have to change mine. There’s a few to change. Thanks for the tips. Shot this afternoon, blown away. Really nice gun. Instead of dressing it with gem stones they’re using slate. Crow
beerthief said:
Crow you mis-typed " But that’s it. No more guns" you forgot "this week " should have read: " But that's it , no more guns this week "
I think this is safe to say as today is friday . 😃😃😃😃😎
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Ironic you say that. Last week I got my haircut,said to the stylist”bought 5 rifles in May, not 1 in June”, you know how barbers kind of know everything. He say’s “Junes not over yet”. He was right I scooped the 350 magnum on the way home. That AGS is worse than a speed trap for me. Crow
Northwoods22 said:
I had to raise the rear scope ring on my RWS C mount by a few millimeters to get my scope to zero within a workable range of elevation adjustment. Finding a C mount may prove difficult, but UTG makes a drooper mount for the 48/52 that accomplishes the same thing-

www.pyramydair.com

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I was hoping to use the ZR mount. Shot them this afternoon, super happy with accuracy. But sight at lowest setting I’m still 6 mill marks above zero.
Can I shim the rear scope mount ?
Crow
 
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Crow, if you’re shooting high you need to shim the front, not the back. 30 yards should be pretty close to the pellet plateau on that gun I would think. The ZR mount has droop compensation built in which you obviously don’t need. If you used any tape between the rings and scope take it out. Ditto what others said about the front sight/shroud. Check occasionally and make sure it’s tight. Fine guns, glad you got one. Love my 52 Luxus. Now you see why they put a sled in the 54/56. They’re thumpers. And no one here believes your no more guns claim. We took a vote. It was unanimous ha ha ha.

Edit: Long as you keep the ZR mount working properly you shouldn’t have any scope issues.
 
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cjtamu said:
Crow, if you’re shooting high you need to shim the front, not the back. 30 yards should be pretty close to the pellet plateau on that gun I would think. The ZR mount has droop compensation built in which you obviously don’t need. If you used any tape between the rings and scope take it out. Ditto what others said about the front sight/shroud. Check occasionally and make sure it’s tight. Fine guns, glad you got one. Love my 52 Luxus. Now you see why they put a sled in the 54/56. They’re thumpers. And no one here believes your no more guns claim. We took a vote. It was unanimous ha ha ha.

Edit: Long as you keep the ZR mount working properly you shouldn’t have any scope issues.
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Thanks that’s a tongue twister. I would have shimmed the back. No tape on rings.
‘Shot this afternoon a while. Going to be an impressive gun.
Don’t make any bets, the guns I don’t have are custom order. Crow
 
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I shot the 48 off and on always putting away because shooting way off to the left. No way to bring back. Using a ZR mount. Took off and redid 3-4 times. I keep a small inventory of sport match, put one on last nite. Different gun altogether. I’ve never had luck with the ZR, so a few are going back. Crow
 
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Congrats on the 48! You are 100% correct on that front sight, astronomically high cheese factor.

As was pointed out, that barrel sleeve is held in place by the front sight, do not let it get loose, you will have a wandering poi.

The barrel sleeve is sized to fit snugly on a 16mm barrel, but the 48 barrel is a smaller od, so there is a full length shim.

Macari at ARH from time to time sells 10 & 12" shrouds for 16mm springer barrels.

They work very well on the 48, 52, & 54. An added benefit is a slightly less front end heavy balance.

And the 48 sleeve you have left over can be put to creative use. Used mine on a carbine-ized Panther 34 -

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This gun is a bit of a scope eater. But the 54 even more so. For the 54 a smart scope mount is the sliding bullseye yielding a cool action part sliding backwards while scope and stock rest still.
For the 48/52 the simple Simmons 4x32 do well. Just properly stuck to the rail best with a monobloc.
I have one of the very first ones, from 87 with T01 kicking like a horse. Straight shooting possible but hard to perform. Scoping is a must have at that power and poor open sights. And 0.177" is not recommendable. Overpowered and overblown with the small caliber. At 0.22" it must be a great performer.
But I prefer the T01 to the T06
 
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SteveV said:
Congrats on the 48! You are 100% correct on that front sight, astronomically high cheese factor.

As was pointed out, that barrel sleeve is held in place by the front sight, do not let it get loose, you will have a wandering poi.

The barrel sleeve is sized to fit snugly on a 16mm barrel, but the 48 barrel is a smaller od, so there is a full length shim.

Macari at ARH from time to time sells 10 & 12" shrouds for 16mm springer barrels.

They work very well on the 48, 52, & 54. An added benefit is a slightly less front end heavy balance.

And the 48 sleeve you have left over can be put to creative use. Used mine on a carbine-ized Panther 34 -

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Nite and day difference. I will watch for 2 sleeves, one for the 54 as well. Thanks. Looks so much better.
Don’t understand, Diana is so close. Crow
 
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crowski said:
Nite and day difference. I will watch for 2 sleeves, one for the 54 as well. Thanks. Looks so much better.
Don’t understand, Diana is so close. Crow
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If you want the ultimate accuracy for the 54 get Hector’s HPM. Or did yours come with the stock Diana version? You can get a CF shroud if you want also. Read Nitrocrushr article about it if you haven’t already. I’ve had same sitting here since May for my 56. Finally cooled off enough to go outdoors ha ha. I can test it now!
 
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cjtamu said:
Sorry to hear you’re having so much trouble with the ZR mount. I have Accurized mount on my D52 and 56T/H and both will stack pellets. Could try the Sportsmatch Dampa if you want recoil reducer.
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Really disappointed. I had one when called Bullseye. POS. Then I read here a new ZR, and if you drill and modify it it’s amazing. Bought one to see. Seemed better, with being able to to clamp to v-grove. Bought 4 more for the 54, 48, 350 and my 2 HW90’s.
The one one the 48 shot to the left. The closest I could get to bullseye was 4 inches after 2 months of reassembling it. Put on the Sportsmatch. Problem solved. I think their R&D department are asleep.
I don’t mind modifying something to make better. Don’t like to modify to work. Crow
 
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Northwoods22 said:
Too bad they don't make an optics only D48 with a clean receiver and full length steel shroud like the HW98. I like the look of the shroud SteveV posted. Can't stand the look of that plastic front sight base. First thing I did with mine was replace that eyesore with the old Dianawerk muzzle weight.
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Love the 98, have 3. I had toy guns when I was 8 yrs. old that looked more like a gun than this 48`. Honestly. It would take so little jewellery to make these outstanding,
I’m not experienced with any older models or parts, unfortunately, but managing, with advice.
If I die and finish all my projects, I’ll be 250. Crow
 
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crowski said:
I shot the 48 off and on always putting away because shooting way off to the left. No way to bring back. Using a ZR mount. Took off and redid 3-4 times. I keep a small inventory of sport match, put one on last nite. Different gun altogether. I’ve never had luck with the ZR, so a few are going back. Crow
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I got two RWS 54. I got the same problem with droop and shooting off to the side. I hate shimming scopes. Especially on these RWS scope eaters (why put more stress on your scope on these magnum recoilers?). These RWS need an optically centered scope.

I did try modifying these cheap Chinese anti-recoil mounts with limited success. I cut off the top and bolted on a Picatinny rail. I then shim either the front or the back with washers to get the droop I needed. I guess in theory...if your off set the attachment screws on the rail...you could account for the left- right adjustments too. I was thinking of epoxying everything in ...once adjusted.

Very crude...I know...I'm not a trained machinist...just a hacker with too many ideas and tools and not enough experience and time (my dad would have been horrified if he saw this...that man was a mechanical genius)

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Next attempt would be to flip the two mounts upside down, unscrew the top half of the mount and leave them off. That way you don't need to cut the mounts off. Drill holes to attach a flat plate. Then mount the Picatinny rail to the flat plate.... That's going have to wait till I finish my Honeydolist...got a retaining wall that needs my attention.
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lateral and vertical play? just drill more holes and put in centering set screws.
 
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Is there a 48/52 that doesn't shoot to the left?
Guess why? Stick a metal rod of the same weight as the cocking lever at the stock's left side to find it shooting straight. Mine did.
Recoil and lateral disbalance is the point.
The 54 should shoot straight though
By the way, those bullseye sliding scope mounts are cool. But I gave mine back for there was lateral and vertical play in it. Don't know if this really was an issue but wouldn't have that. Still cool action.
 
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crowski said:
I had an Element scope and used the Diana ZR mount. Needs to be moved forward.View attachment 370521At the lowest setting I was still 6 in. high at 30 yds.
Any suggestions?
Crow
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G’day Crow my suggestion would be to leave the scope on it and only use the rifle to shoot in the 60 to 100 metre ranges. After all you have the rest of that fantastic collection to shoot in the closer ranges.
🥴😂
Gary
 
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Northwoods22 said:
It's a shame they don't make the RWS C Mount anymore. All steel, dual recoil stop screws designed specifically for the 48/52, plenty of elevation and windage adjustment, and rock solid once set. I see them come up on Ebay from time to time. Well worth the investment.

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Are you talking about this product?


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If you are, they are still selling the RWS C mount at Amazon.
 
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