68 Whiskey and FX Panthera???

[Centercut]

Did anyone see the short video done by 68 Whiskey where Keith shoots a .25 caliber FX Panthera (700mm?) off hand at 300 yards and hits a steel plate (unknown size)? He says 41 grain ZAN at 960 fps, then says his gun gets "12 to 16 shots" per fill... I know I saw it, but it seems to have been taken down not too long after posting. Perhaps the honest shot count didn't show the Panthera in a good light? Things that make you go hmmm....

 

[Sell682]

I would expect a low shot count. I remember reading somewhere that after each stage you might have to fill up as it’s 12 shots or so..

 

[Maineiac]

I remember it but can’t find it right now either. Which YouTube channel was it posted on?

 

[Navnesen]

It’s on Instagram.

 

[2L8]

Saw it this morning. Crazy.

 

[BulletCentral]

You will only get one mag with the rifle shooting that high. We have a customer here with a .22 that is getting some decent strings.

Just some basic numbers from a local customer that is playing with his new Panthera.

Shot count: 7
Low: 895
Hi: 926
Avg: 914
STD Dev: 9.7
Spread: 31.0

1/5/23 12:49:26 PM,895
1/5/23 12:49:32 PM,905
1/5/23 12:49:37 PM,926
1/5/23 12:49:41 PM,919
1/5/23 12:49:59 PM,916
1/5/23 12:50:04 PM,919
1/5/23 12:50:08 PM,919

Pellet:Javelin gen2
Weight: 34.0 gr

Shot count: 9
Low: 905
Hi: 926
Avg: 918
STD Dev: 6.1
Spread: 21.0

1/5/23 12:19:46 PM,921
1/5/23 12:19:53 PM,926
1/5/23 12:20:01 PM,914
1/5/23 12:20:07 PM,919
1/5/23 12:20:20 PM,916
1/5/23 12:20:31 PM,919
1/5/23 12:20:39 PM,916
1/5/23 12:20:46 PM,926
1/5/23 12:20:55 PM,905


Shot count: 14
Low: 926
Hi: 953
Avg: 939
STD Dev: 8.5
Spread: 27.0

1/4/23 2:47:27 PM,937
1/4/23 2:47:51 PM,930
1/4/23 2:48:03 PM,930
1/4/23 2:49:20 PM,953
1/4/23 2:49:41 PM,946
1/4/23 2:49:53 PM,942
1/4/23 2:50:02 PM,953
1/4/23 2:50:13 PM,949
1/4/23 2:50:40 PM,926
1/4/23 2:50:54 PM,939
1/4/23 2:51:01 PM,928
1/4/23 2:51:09 PM,939
1/4/23 2:51:22 PM,937
1/4/23 2:51:30 PM,939


These are groupings that he is getting at 50' while working on the tune for the 30 and 34 grain Javelin V2.

 

[Centercut]

I knew I wasn't sleep walking!

PS., I didn't mean to imply that there was anything wrong with 12 to 16 shots per fill at 84-ish FPE, but my question goes to when shooting at higher FPE (40 grain .22 cal. slugs at 1050 fps - 97 FPE) a 300-bar bottle might just be a necessity...?

 

[airprsr]

My maverick gets @ 48 shots per fill at 85 fpe. Still not persuaded that the “miss panther” is an upgrade? We shall see but I’m happy with my maverick for now, until I can save up for a REAL airgun.

 

[Centercut]

My maverick gets @ 48 shots per fill at 85 fpe. Still not persuaded that the “miss panther” is an upgrade? We shall see but I’m happy with my maverick for now, until I can save up for a REAL airgun.

Wow! 700cc bottle? .30 cal. pellets I assume? I'd like to know how you do that. My .25 Impact Slugger with 580cc bottle gets 26 to 27 shots per fill at 87 FPE. And I've worked on the settings for almost two years to get to that point. Would love to crack the code...

 

[Sell682]

My maverick gets @ 48 shots per fill at 85 fpe. Still not persuaded that the “miss panther” is an upgrade? We shall see but I’m happy with my maverick for now, until I can save up for a REAL airgun.

Nothing wrong with a Maverick and it’s as real as it comes if you ask me…

 

[woogie_man]

The thing with the maverick and the panthera is they are ment for two very different things. It gets more than enough for a stage at an NRL match, which is was designed for.

The Maverick is a beast of a rifle and is able to get some high velocities for sure.

 

[bigHUN]

I have a 300cc 300 bar on my .22x600 Leshiy2 only, the small bottle is really nerv wrecking shooting 25gr MRDs.
My .25x700 MK2 is high power and for comfortable shooting 85+ fpe I must tether.
I really like the P but that small bottle scares me, can shoot tethered but then what is a point... adding an extra bottle to a front will render the esthetics.

 

[airprsr]

Ok now that you say that I really need to go back and check to be sure. I’ve got three 16 round magazines (.25 cal) and I can empty them and the bottle about the same time. I may be off the reg for the last few rounds but I don't think so. I’m shooting 34.9 nsa’s at around 1050 or slightly under. Tune is reg about 153/ 20g tungsten hammer and not sure where I’m at on adjustment screw but tuned to just below the power knee.

 

[airprsr]

Also id calculated the fpe on nsa site. I’m thinking it was 85 fpe but was it 75? Checking now.

 

[airprsr]

Also id calculated the fpe on nsa site. I’m thinking it was 85 fpe but was it 75? Checking now.

It was 85.

 

[bigHUN]

Looking at that distance between the grip and the bottle, it is a same situation as with L2 if you want to mount a larger bottle. But Edgun came up with a solution and selling different length "extensions" whixh are actually the extension of a air volume before the Reg.
Maybe FX .... ? will somewhere in the future extend that bar on the stock? Maybe rebuild the stock connector to allow a 1-2" longer=larger bottle ???

 

[qball]

Keith is mind blowing good at offhand shooting, he will give Rick/shoter1721 run for his money.

 

[Centercut]

Keith is mind blowing good at offhand shooting, he will give Rick/shoter1721 run for his money.

Yes. And overall Keith is a better shot. Look at 2022 RMAC 100Y BR and PRS.

 

[MongooseV8]

Looking at that distance between the grip and the bottle, it is a same situation as with L2 if you want to mount a larger bottle. But Edgun came up with a solution and selling different length "extensions" whixh are actually the extension of a air volume before the Reg.
Maybe FX .... ? will somewhere in the future extend that bar on the stock? Maybe rebuild the stock connector to allow a 1-2" longer=larger bottle ???

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I think the LOP is already too long for many shooters as is. Adding length would allow more room for a bigger bottle, but would not be good for fitment. I think FX could have ditched the adjustable butt pad, and trimmed down the actual "pad" and made more room for more air. Seems like a ~400cc bottle at 300Bar would have been a good move imo.

 

[bigHUN]

I think the LOP is already too long for many shooters as is. .........

How do you know the LOP is long or not? You need to have it in your hands and only then to try the fit. You know how to?