A nothing year for anything new

Really seeing nothing that floats my boat at this year's Shot Show. Kalibergun Semi Auto and possibly the shotgun Umarex is showing is about the only somewhat unique products I see. Adding a tactical stock to an existing product doesn't count as anything new imo.



The Skout air rifle that operates on 800 psi looks interesting. Seems like a great way to better utilize more of our stored air if they perform similarly to what we’re accustomed to shooting. However, I’m not excited about the idea of an electronic trigger on the gun. Someone sent me a link to a video interview where Skout guns were discussed. I didn’t pay attention to too much of anything else that came out of the Shot Show. I have enough of what I need and most of what I want to keep me plenty busy. 


As for tactical stocks, I’ve been wondering something - why is this even a thing? Can someone explain to me what advantage this sort of configuration brings to air gunning? I was thinking at best it can lighten a gun’s weight and make it easy to add cool-looking modular accessories, but what real practical purpose does a tactical build serve on an airgun?
 
Most attendees were underwhelmed by vendor attendance and few(or lackluster) new products. Many reports of a whole lot of walking and searching for not much to see(or vendors who decided not to show up). Unfortunate

They need to lower the cost of the rediculously overpriced tables to encourage more small mom and pop vendors. I'm looking more forward to the Placerville Airgun Expo in March. 
 
Really seeing nothing that floats my boat at this year's Shot Show. Kalibergun Semi Auto and possibly the shotgun Umarex is showing is about the only somewhat unique products I see. Adding a tactical stock to an existing product doesn't count as anything new imo.

Blah blah blah all of your posts have become toxic. 

PK

Yeah I know, truth is so toxic right. Easy enough to scroll by or use the "hide" feature, it really is wonderful. 
 
Really seeing nothing that floats my boat at this year's Shot Show. Kalibergun Semi Auto and possibly the shotgun Umarex is showing is about the only somewhat unique products I see. Adding a tactical stock to an existing product doesn't count as anything new imo.



The Skout air rifle that operates on 800 psi looks interesting. Seems like a great way to better utilize more of our stored air if they perform similarly to what we’re accustomed to shooting. However, I’m not excited about the idea of an electronic trigger on the gun. Someone sent me a link to a video interview where Skout guns were discussed. I didn’t pay attention to too much of anything else that came out of the Shot Show. I have enough of what I need and most of what I want to keep me plenty busy. 


As for tactical stocks, I’ve been wondering something - why is this even a thing? Can someone explain to me what advantage this sort of configuration brings to air gunning? I was thinking at best it can lighten a gun’s weight and make it easy to add cool-looking modular accessories, but what real practical purpose does a tactical build serve on an airgun?

My theory, it's just easier for them to build and increase profit margins. 

They basically design an action, then just stick a pistol grip to it and it's finished. And still charge as much as if it had a real stock. 

Cutting out the whole process of designing and fitting a stock sure saves some time and cost for them I'd have to imagine. 

Personally, I couldn't take myself seriously walking through the woods with some of these things.

They certainly do nothing for me or any of my uses. But a lot of guys don't seem to mind them, so the ease of production and the fact that people seem to have settled for them means that's what we get. And that's just how it's going to continue to be unfortunately.

Just how I see it. 
 
Okay this I have to chime in on because I think the vast majority of people here, I believe, feel that @crosman999 (Dana) is above reproach, aka super duper respected, and far from Toxic! @pestkillah I am a hunter and in the field person, which is where I use almost all my guns, fire and air. If the guns can't take a knocking and are durable, they serve little purpose to me. @crosman999 is one of the few people / reviewers on YouTube who do this, and if they don't hold up, then he gives us I believe, pretty much the full and real story. So @pestkillah, how is this truth Toxic?
 
Agree on the tactical stock. But I don't blame the companies for putting the product in the market. I have kids 18+ and have invited many of their friends to shoot. Maybe a dozen last few years. And they think all cool guns are black with vertical grip(s). love to shoot the Impact, not really interested in anything clad in wood. Thanks Call of Duty and Fortnite. 

Exception (thanks to Call of Duty): Kar 98, Mosin Nagant, M1 is worth a look. I recently picked up a 1926 Winchester Model 52 .22 lr and expect that will get good reviews. 
 
made another post about this, but agreed shot show was all about arrow guns and updated stocks. aea is putting out more exciting things than anybody else IMO. i know they had, and still continue to have kinks to work out, but i like that they are trying so many things.

affordable big bores, mass produced elefant gun, semi auto 45, traditional rifles that shoot almost as strong as a condor in 22, affordable semi-autos in general

aea does get some love around here but i feel like gta is where i see more people using them. i dont hang out on gta as much, but i respect the opinion of a lot of the old timers there.
 
Hello all, I am 62, only a year into air fun. My first is Benjamin Armada .22 cal. What attracted me to it, was it didn't look like Wild Bills 1800's rifle. And how about all those Bull pup and thumb hole giant stocks. It's our nature to want to personalize things we like, right. Let me add, I sold a brand new AR15-223 that I had for over a year and never shot cause ammo too expensive and not fun at the range with brass flying all over. 

They way it's built gives exactly the durability a klutz would need to avoid damage, or at least reduce it. Mine happens to like Crosman pellets. 2000 cost about 25 bucks. I can sit inside my shop and shoot out to 50 yards and it doesn't bother anybody. 

There's my two cents on the matter. Have a great day. 
 
Really seeing nothing that floats my boat at this year's Shot Show. Kalibergun Semi Auto and possibly the shotgun Umarex is showing is about the only somewhat unique products I see. Adding a tactical stock to an existing product doesn't count as anything new imo.



The Skout air rifle that operates on 800 psi looks interesting. Seems like a great way to better utilize more of our stored air if they perform similarly to what we’re accustomed to shooting. However, I’m not excited about the idea of an electronic trigger on the gun. Someone sent me a link to a video interview where Skout guns were discussed. I didn’t pay attention to too much of anything else that came out of the Shot Show. I have enough of what I need and most of what I want to keep me plenty busy. 


As for tactical stocks, I’ve been wondering something - why is this even a thing? Can someone explain to me what advantage this sort of configuration brings to air gunning? I was thinking at best it can lighten a gun’s weight and make it easy to add cool-looking modular accessories, but what real practical purpose does a tactical build serve on an airgun?

My theory, it's just easier for them to build and increase profit margins. 

They basically design an action, then just stick a pistol grip to it and it's finished. And still charge as much as if it had a real stock. 

Cutting out the whole process of designing and fitting a stock sure saves some time and cost for them I'd have to imagine. 

Personally, I couldn't take myself seriously walking through the woods with some of these things.

They certainly do nothing for me or any of my uses. But a lot of guys don't seem to mind them, so the ease of production and the fact that people seem to have settled for them means that's what we get. And that's just how it's going to continue to be unfortunately.

Just how I see it.

Painting turds gold and thru clever propaganda(forum shills),have folks picking up FX turds by the clean end,followed closely by Daystate.

,,,,
 
Most attendees were underwhelmed by vendor attendance and few(or lackluster) new products. Many reports of a whole lot of walking and searching for not much to see(or vendors who decided not to show up). Unfortunate

They need to lower the cost of the rediculously overpriced tables to encourage more small mom and pop vendors. I'm looking more forward to the Placerville Airgun Expo in March.

Is this pac west ag show for sure happening this year? Same spot in Placerville?