AA Pro Sport with Sports Match Scope Rings

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I am mounting a scope on my recently purchased Pro Sport and I found decent reviews and recommendations for Sports Match scope rings with the recoil pin. I cleaned & degreased everything and mounted the scope rings on the Air Arms Pro Sport dovetail and for some reason the gap between the bottom of the scope rings and the top of the dovetail seemed excessive.

I'm assuming that it works based on the clamping force of the rings perpendicular to the dovetail, pinching tightly to the scope rail. Does anyone else have a similar setup and is the gap normal or do I need to consider a different set of rings?:

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If the consensus is that I should consider different scope rings I would appreciate recommendations of a set of rings with the recoil pin.

Thanks - PJ
 
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Hatsan Mod 95 Scope Mount

I just received my Hatsan Mod 95 Vortex Brake Barrell today but I confused about the scope mount, it says on the Hatsan website 11mm Dovetail but my 2 different UTG Dovetail mount didn't fit correctly, little gap on closing side not flush fit. Looks like dovetail but buttom is not flat because...
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cjtamu said:
What Mo-Ron posted is correct. But, he said bottom of ring and top of dovetail, not side clamping. Is the scope stop pin level with the bottom of the clamp or just above level? If it sticks out too far the clamp won’t sit properly.
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Got ya,... The clamp part matters to get a positive straight clamp / toque on the clamp screws . The mount i pictured is "up," off the receiver as well. Thats going to depend on the profile/ roundness of any recriver . R9 thetes a gap between the ring bottom .... The hatsan 95 near flat on flush.. But ya, back the stop pin off set the ring then bring the stop pin back down till it just bumps the bottom of the hole..

This flipped clamp the toque pressure is stressing / bending the screws not clamping the rail
And it will tend to slip from recoil

You flip the jaw and toque it proper youll be just fine

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Youll never toque that to stay put and egg put the stop pin hole .. flip it it will stay till you remove it..

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Sportsmatch rings are excellent. If you didn't remove the clamping plates they are fine. The gap underneath is normal. Read the instructions on the packaging as far as setting the recoil pin depth and you'll be fine.
Those are the best airgun rings you can buy. The dovetail clamps are to be torqued to 55 in lbs. Also as per the instructions.

The caps only take down to 16 in lbs. The rings specify more but will crimp most scope tubes. You bought excellent rings and some of the others are dealing with cheap Chinese crap.

Read the instructions and you'll be fine. I've got these rings on seven or eight Weihrauchs and a few European powder burners. Trust me.
 
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Mo-Ron said:
This was just covered in a thread this week.

Hang on... .

Well finely found it..lol

Hatsan Mod 95 Scope Mount

I just received my Hatsan Mod 95 Vortex Brake Barrell today but I confused about the scope mount, it says on the Hatsan website 11mm Dovetail but my 2 different UTG Dovetail mount didn't fit correctly, little gap on closing side not flush fit. Looks like dovetail but buttom is not flat because...
www.airgunnation.com www.airgunnation.com
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Mo-Ron

Thanks for the link. Undoubtedly I need to search the forum with less specific search terms instead of "Pro Sport Sports Match gap rings". I flipped the clamp and it seems to be seated better, but the clamp still has an awkward look to it and the gap is still there (which makes sense based on the thread that you provided).

-PJ
 
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cjtamu said:
What Mo-Ron posted is correct. But, he said bottom of ring and top of dovetail, not side clamping. Is the scope stop pin level with the bottom of the clamp or just above level? If it sticks out too far the clamp won’t sit properly.
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Cjtamu

Thanks for the insight. I used my calipers to measure the length of the recoil pin protrusion and made sure that it is a bit shallower than the counter-sunk dimple. Once I clamped the scope ring down I gave it a tap with a roll pin punch through the inside of the bottom half of the scope ring seating the recoil pin into the top of the receiver.

-PJ
 
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Mycapt65 said:
Sportsmatch rings are excellent. If you didn't remove the clamping plates they are fine. The gap underneath is normal. Read the instructions on the packaging as far as setting the recoil pin depth and you'll be fine.
Those are the best airgun rings you can buy. The dovetail clamps are to be torqued to 55 in lbs. Also as per the instructions.

The caps only take down to 16 in lbs. The rings specify more but will crimp most scope tubes. You bought excellent rings and some of the others are dealing with cheap Chinese crap.

Read the instructions and you'll be fine. I've got these rings on seven or eight Weihrauchs and a few European powder burners. Trust me.
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Mycapt65

Agreed, based on what I read it seems these are supposed to be good rings. I don't know if these were NOS (New Old Stock) or what but there was little in the way of directions:

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I also went to the FAQ listed at the bottom of the back of the package. Had it not been for this forum I would still have the clamp jaw upside down. It seems strange that they would leave the factory upside down. I do appreciate all of the feedback thus far.

-PJ
 
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Were they in fact upside down? I've never seen that before. Doesn't mean it can't happen. Go the their website regarding the recoil pin instructions. Basically it says to get the pin started and press the ring down on a steel flat surface until the dovetail touches the flat surface. This makes the pin even with the bottom of the ring base.

I usually go a step further. Placing the ring on the rifle with the pin already in the hole, slide the ring back to preload the pin. Then tighten the ring side clamp and push the pin down with a punch until the pin hits bottom. This ensures maximum engagement.

Doing this with tightening the rings to 55 in lbs on degreased, clean and dry dovetails, I've never had Sportsmatch ring slip. I've used them upto 24 fpe Rx1s.

Another nice thing with the Sportsmatch is they're made specifically for 11mm dovetails so the ring and pin are centered. The cheap Chinese crap that most use will be offset to one side because they are "universal" dovetail sized. They also will not hold the same torque as the Sportsmatch and often slip and plow the recoil pin through the receiver. Off center to boot.

HTH
 
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Lol.. talk about cheap Chinese crap.. the front ring was wide almost like that back was for 1" and front was 30mm tube ..lol. crazy..

I looked around at aa guns with 2 piece rings and most have that gap between the top of the receiver and botyom of the ring .. the clamp , just try each way to what side looks to be the better .

The rings for some reason i got resently i been having to flip em over or they were skewed . Anyway its now somthing i check with new per gun used .

Good luck

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Mycapt65 said:
Were they in fact upside down? I've never seen that before. Doesn't mean it can't happen. Go the their website regarding the recoil pin instructions. Basically it says to get the pin started and press the ring down on a steel flat surface until the dovetail touches the flat surface. This makes the pin even with the bottom of the ring base.

I usually go a step further. Placing the ring on the rifle with the pin already in the hole, slide the ring back to preload the pin. Then tighten the ring side clamp and push the pin down with a punch until the pin hits bottom. This ensures maximum engagement.

Doing this with tightening the rings to 55 in lbs on degreased, clean and dry dovetails, I've never had Sportsmatch ring slip. I've used them upto 24 fpe Rx1s.

Another nice thing with the Sportsmatch is they're made specifically for 11mm dovetails so the ring and pin are centered. The cheap Chinese crap that most use will be offset to one side because they are "universal" dovetail sized. They also will not hold the same torque as the Sportsmatch and often slip and plow the recoil pin through the receiver. Off center to boot.

HTH
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I would like to find a ring that is specifically designed for the 11mm dovetail. I must be looking at the wrong Sports Match models. Everything I am looking at claims to be adjustable from 9mm-11mm. What model are you referring to Ron?

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Bear-of-Grayling said:
I would like to find a ring that is specifically designed for the 11mm dovetail. I must be looking at the wrong Sports Match models. Everything I am looking at claims to be adjustable from 9mm-11mm. What model are you referring to Ron?

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I must own twelve sets of Sportsmatch rings. I use the Sportsmatch T02C and T04C rings. They use a larger rolled spring steel pin with adjustable depth. They hold secure without leaving a mark. Genuine Sportsmatch rings are made in the UK almost specifically for 11mm airgun dovetails. They advertise that they happen to fit smaller dovetails but they center perfectly on Weihrauch 11mm dovetails. Once again they are made in the UK for airguns and European rimfires that also use 11mm dovetails. Also their machining, materials and hardware is light years better than the Hawke knock offs of them or any other cheap Chinese rings like the UTG. And they aren't expensive. AoA has them. The T02C are medium height and work well on the Hw30s and 50s. The T04C has additional bolts for harder hitting guns. I use them on Hw95s and up.
Trust me they are made for 11mm and only happen to fit smaller dovetails. Other cheap rings aren't made to fit 11mm dovetails. They only happen to fit 11mm and do it poorly I might add.
 
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In the end if your not liking it or think somthings off or whatever you get another set maybe another brands and try them out as a comparison..

Like me im the lemon king so these things can happen like lucky enough to get that 1 in 10,000 defective item..lol. If its out there im sure to get it . Seems quality tofay is more afterthought..
 
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KWK said:
It would have to be brand specific. There is no standard for11mm dovetails. Even the cutter angle varies. Some 45 degree and some 60 degree.
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I always assumed that was why they had the shorter and longer edges. Just eyeballing seems like the angle looks a little different. In the office today and don’t have a set handy to look at.
 
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KWK said:
It would have to be brand specific. There is no standard for11mm dovetails. Even the cutter angle varies. Some 45 degree and some 60 degree.
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True. I'm saying they fit my Weihrauchs, Tikka and CZ perfectly. So I can't speak for all of the 11mm dovetails but I can tell you they'll be a closer fit to any 11mm dovetail than any of the cheap Chinese crap that's made to fit 3/8" dovetails first. Not to mention that the materials, machining and hardware is a thousand times better than the cheap Chinese crap.

You do what you want. If you want to split hairs go ahead. I don't care. You can lead a horse to water...
 
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Mo-Ron said:
Probably made in china amd boxed in a made in uk box anyway..lol.

All that made in is just a farce / load of ©®@P anymore.
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After legitimately trying to help you, you doubting my intensions and now years of reading your posts I realize you're a very negative person. That's ok, it's your prerogative to complain about and deny everything. Your resistance to any intelligence that involves spending more than the minimum is always predictable and unnecessary. Look you believe what you want, but don't steer people away from good products because your too cheap to buy them. You just want to believe your stuff is as good as the more expensive stuff that you're either too cheap or unable to purchase. You're like the people that believe their Hyundai is just as nice as a Mercedes because that's what they can afford. It's OK that they think that but it's still not true. Please stop interjecting you're budget on intelligent conversation.
 
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I don't have a dog in this fight but I do have multiple sets of Sportsmatch rings, both T02C and T04C. If they are installed correctly they work perfect and in my opinion are priced very reasonably for what you get. I have yet to have a scope or the rings move on any of my rifles with these installed.

BTW....contrary to what is written above they are made in Great Britain.
 
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