About time with the HW90

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I pulled out my HW90’s. I have a .20 and .25 cal.
First of all I have to thank 2 members. Froggy for posting his HW90 .22 cal in What springer did you shoot today. He was raving about his, and the wonder begins. And Jayjay, if it wasn’t for him I wouldn’t have the .20. My first gun was the HW90 .25 (my mentor was into cannons). I hated that gun. Took two of me to jack it, the trigger was insane. And it’s a brick.
So I’m reading this forum and Jayjay did a post, that was second to none. Way over my head but interesting, he made ithe 90 sound so good, I bought another 90, a gun I hated, plus I bought the gauge and pump. I’ve had it a year and today blew the dust off them . They were both at 22 bars and I lowered them both to 18 before I stepped out. I started with the 25, zeroed it in. It was all over. Then I realized my stockscrews were loose. Have to try later. This is the 25.
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I have a HW97 and a R9 both in .20, they’re both worthy. The HW90 .20 fits in perfectl. I should get slapped for letting this sleep so long. Man once zeroed in jackpot. What’s with the .20 cal.? Seems to bring out the best in a gun.
This is the .20. I like the checkering on this one better.
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The 90’s have a different sound, almost like a smacking sound. Definitely going to play around with the pump and gauge with the crony. Awesome gun. Crow
 
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Sqwirlfugger57 said:
What are your thoughts on the trigger?
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It’s something really noticeable. When I first got the .25, I couldn’t breath on it without going off. It was crazy. Now not at all like that. I didn’t shoot the .25 near as much as the .20. but had no issues. Hopefully I’ll get out this afternoon and I ‘ll take more notice. Crow
 
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Moog said:
Those look really nice. At 18 bars about how much fpe are you getting?
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I never cronied. Went out in afternoon, too windy. But I will. Hopefully tomorrow. Crow
Slingworks said:
Interesting post. I sure would like to have a 25 cal Hw90 for possible field use.

What's the max velocity you can attain with the Hw90 25 cal? Are they capable of approaching the Webley Patriots?
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I don’t know how many bars I can give it. I’d be curious myself. When the weather tames I’ll spend a few afternoons playing with the pressure. Cool gun. Crow
 
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crowski said:
I pulled out my HW90’s. I have a .20 and .25 cal.
First of all I have to thank 2 members. Froggy for posting his HW90 .22 cal in What springer did you shoot today. He was raving about his, and the wonder begins. And Jayjay, if it wasn’t for him I wouldn’t have the .20. My first gun was the HW90 .25 (my mentor was into cannons). I hated that gun. Took two of me to jack it, the trigger was insane. And it’s a brick.
So I’m reading this forum and Jayjay did a post, that was second to none. Way over my head but interesting, he made ithe 90 sound so good, I bought another 90, a gun I hated, plus I bought the gauge and pump. I’ve had it a year and today blew the dust off them . They were both at 22 bars and I lowered them both to 18 before I stepped out. I started with the 25, zeroed it in. It was all over. Then I realized my stockscrews were loose. Have to try later. This is the 25.View attachment 339363
I have a HW97 and a R9 both in .20, they’re both worthy. The HW90 .20 fits in perfectl. I should get slapped for letting this sleep so long. Man once zeroed in jackpot. What’s with the .20 cal.? Seems to bring out the best in a gun.
This is the .20. I like the checkering on this one better. View attachment 339364
The 90’s have a different sound, almost like a smacking sound. Definitely going to play around with the pump and gauge with the crony. Awesome gun. Crow
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Love them both Mine can set for weeks , I pick it up an it just shoots Please keep us informed. Everyone has a different experience 😁
 
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Nice !!

I had a 20 a long time ago that I found in a pawn shop that was hacked up but price was right. I bought the parts from Beeman and got it fixed up. Bought the pump, too. It shot WONDERFULLY . The ES was always under 5 . One day , while camping out, I was plinking and shooting some groups and it went from 1 hole at about 20 yds to 1.5" in just a few shots. I troubleshot it for a couple of weeks and never found an answer, so I sold it... big mistake. Not much later, a friend with a 22 Eliminator had the same issue. He was able to find the answer from John Whiscombe... fouled breech. Shooting at the higher powers, the carbon would build up in the breech to the point that it would create a choke and size the pellet, making it very inaccurate. Now I had cleaned the barrel but this buildup needed an abrasive like JB Bore to get it out, which I was unaware of. When he cleaned his, it came right back to greatness. On the Eliminators and Whiscombes, the fouling didn't take long... about 100 shots. John came out with a pellet lube mix that would delay this buildup but they would still need cleaning after a few hundred. It was a blend of STP, Hoppes #9, and synthetic gun oil.
Unfortunately, I gave up on a wonderful rifle before learning all this.
My trigger would get lighter and lighter when I first got it. Had to bend the tension tab on the adjuster a little so it would stay put. It would get SCARY light as well.

Enjoy... vey nice rifles.
Bob
 
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Arzrover said:
Nice !!

I had a 20 a long time ago that I found in a pawn shop that was hacked up but price was right. I bought the parts from Beeman and got it fixed up. Bought the pump, too. It shot WONDERFULLY . The ES was always under 5 . One day , while camping out, I was plinking and shooting some groups and it went from 1 hole at about 20 yds to 1.5" in just a few shots. I troubleshot it for a couple of weeks and never found an answer, so I sold it... big mistake. Not much later, a friend with a 22 Eliminator had the same issue. He was able to find the answer from John Whiscombe... fouled breech. Shooting at the higher powers, the carbon would build up in the breech to the point that it would create a choke and size the pellet, making it very inaccurate. Now I had cleaned the barrel but this buildup needed an abrasive like JB Bore to get it out, which I was unaware of. When he cleaned his, it came right back to greatness. On the Eliminators and Whiscombes, the fouling didn't take long... about 100 shots. John came out with a pellet lube mix that would delay this buildup but they would still need cleaning after a few hundred. It was a blend of STP, Hoppes #9, and synthetic gun oil.
Unfortunately, I gave up on a wonderful rifle before learning all this.
My trigger would get lighter and lighter when I first got it. Had to bend the tension tab on the adjuster a little so it would stay put. It would get SCARY light as well.

Enjoy... vey nice rifles.
Bob
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You know, I‘ve heard that story on this forum dozens of times. I should never of sold it.
Great story Bob, thanks. Crow
 
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crowski said:
I pulled out my HW90’s. I have a .20 and .25 cal.
First of all I have to thank 2 members. Froggy for posting his HW90 .22 cal in What springer did you shoot today. He was raving about his, and the wonder begins. And Jayjay, if it wasn’t for him I wouldn’t have the .20. My first gun was the HW90 .25 (my mentor was into cannons). I hated that gun. Took two of me to jack it, the trigger was insane. And it’s a brick.
So I’m reading this forum and Jayjay did a post, that was second to none. Way over my head but interesting, he made ithe 90 sound so good, I bought another 90, a gun I hated, plus I bought the gauge and pump. I’ve had it a year and today blew the dust off them . They were both at 22 bars and I lowered them both to 18 before I stepped out. I started with the 25, zeroed it in. It was all over. Then I realized my stockscrews were loose. Have to try later. This is the 25.
I have a HW97 and a R9 both in .20, they’re both worthy. The HW90 .20 fits in perfectl. I should get slapped for letting this sleep so long. Man once zeroed in jackpot. What’s with the .20 cal.? Seems to bring out the best in a gun.
This is the .20. I like the checkering on this one better.
The 90’s have a different sound, almost like a smacking sound. Definitely going to play around with the pump and gauge with the crony. Awesome gun. Crow
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Hi Crow, Thanks for the kind words and great post!

I agree. I have a 30, 95 and 100 lined up in our hall, but the one I usually pick up to 'fondle' is the 90. Why? The 30 and 95 are gorgeous guns, but they're almost silent when cocking. All you hear is the snick as the trigger latches onto the piston. The 90 ram when being compressed has a distinctive hydraulic cylinder sound. Kind of a gentle squeal. It's silly but adds to the enjoyment. You feel like you have really achieved something. LOL.

By the way, it's possible to 'uncock' a 90, much the same as a 30 or 95. Just pull the barrel back to compress the piston a little, then press the safety, then the trigger. At that point you can bring the barrel back to straight position. Just don't let go of the barrel until it's all the way back up!

The only con is the small amount of barrel droop, which IMHO seems to be engineered into the 90's from the factory. I wonder if Beeman RXs came without any droop. I would be interested if any RX owners find droop.
 
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JayJay said:
Hi Crow, Thanks for the kind words and great post!

I agree. I have a 30, 95 and 100 lined up in our hall, but the one I usually pick up to 'fondle' is the 90. Why? The 30 and 95 are gorgeous guns, but they're almost silent when cocking. All you hear is the snick as the trigger latches onto the piston. The 90 ram when being compressed has a distinctive hydraulic cylinder sound. Kind of a gentle squeal. It's silly but adds to the enjoyment. You feel like you have really achieved something. LOL.

By the way, it's possible to 'uncock' a 90, much the same as a 30 or 95. Just pull the barrel back to compress the piston a little, then press the safety, then the trigger. At that point you can bring the barrel back to straight position. Just don't let go of the barrel until it's all the way back up!

The only con is the small amount of barrel droop, which IMHO seems to be engineered into the 90's from the factory. I wonder if Beeman RXs came without any droop. I would be interested if any RX owners find droop.
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Thanks for sharing your info on the 90. Like I said I went from thinking it was a torture to use, to buying a second. Ironically I shot the .20 yesterday, but the scope moved, can hardly wait to use it. The stop pin, rattled loose.
The sound is distinct and cool. This is quickly becoming a go to rifle. Can’t wait for better weather and play with the different bars.
What is the highest bar you can pump it to? Just curious.
Again thanks. Crow
 
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JayJay said:
I made the switch to a red dot too. They're light and indestructable. And they're easier on the eyes than traditional iron sights.
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I’ll check out the Red Dots. The 90 is murder on the scope rings. I used the stop pin but it vibrated loose.
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After I repaired this, took out to shoot. I listened, this gun is awesome. I like the safety better near trigger. Crow
 
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crowski said:
I’ll check out the Red Dots. The 90 is murder on the scope rings. I used the stop pin but it vibrated loose. View attachment 341268After I repaired this, took out to shoot. I listened, this gun is awesome. I like the safety better near trigger. Crow
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I’ve had a stop pin blackout from sportsmatch rings. I tapped the hole and used a set screw with blue loctite to hold the pin in place.
 
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