Other Acceptable Co2 rifle?

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spywiz

spywiz

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An "old" friend called me and has another retired firefighter friend that is a little weaker in his old age, and has COPD. His wife died this year and he is watching the starlings and blackbirds eat all of his birdseed. He is looking for a Co2 rifle that he can shoot the starlings, up to maybe 50 yards. I know absolutely nothing about Co2. Could yall suggest a decent Co2 rifle that I could suggest to him to get for his old friend? He wants C02 because he don't think the old fella is strong enough to cock a break barrel and a pump would stress his breathing. I told him that I would post the question on AGN and let him know. Thanks to all for the time and attention.
Bob-
 
Or.... Most folks don't consider pcps because of the hassle and expense associated with air supply. However, if he is a former firefighter he should have friends
who could cobble together some good kit. An inexpensive rifle from Crosman/Benj. or many others) can be American made wood and steel. The quality is good, service is available and he gets 100 shots a fill. Just a thought.
 
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QB78 ! Sealed tube so holds gas forever, (opposed to a rig that just seals to the Co2 cart) reasonable weight. Excellent triggers, in .22 can -easily- be modded to 20fpe if desired-, made from wood and metal but a synthetic model is now out. No problem with 50 yards either tho knowing your abilities is needed.
Best value in a utility Co2 rifle and at a price you wont regret.

John
 
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QB78 is a great rifle if you are wanting to stay in co2 realm and its limitations, one thing to note with the QB78 is the piercing cap you have to tighten it down then back off until you hear it pressurize then when you dry fire it once it seems to fully pierce may be a quirk with mine but great lil rifle for the pricepoint. Also, Co2 is temperature sensitive the colder it is outside the less performance you get and the hotter it is the better it performs and note that when shooting fast with them causes it to cool lowering fps as well.
 
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As others mentioned, 50 yards is excessive for CO2, but inside of 30 yards is another story.
The QB78 is a little loud, heavy, and requires not one, but two CO2 cylinders per fill.
My recomendation would be a Crosman 1077.
A 1077 trigger will take some getting used to ( or modifications) , but besides that, they are a very lightweight, inexpensive and popular CO2 airgun.
 
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Direfulclover said:
No reviews on air gun depot either.
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A handful on Pyramyd tho, all say very accurate.
I still don't own this but do own a Crosman 1077. I've taken a chipmunk pest but I'm not sure I'd do anything bigger than that (rabbit etc) with the 1077. I view it as more of a fun plinker since it's double action revolver (or semi auto as the box says lol) and doesn't shoot high FPS.
 
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EmptyTin_Tim said:
Or this one uses 3 cartridges and claims to shoot 100 before needing to swap. Also has magazines! Would be able to sit down for a long time and keep shooting. But again I don't own this just heard good things about Diana

Diana TrailScout
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I have one in .22. It is lightweight and smaller in form, maybe good for a smaller shooter, puts out around 11 ft#, is quiet, has a nice trigger and is accurate. But it suffers from the usual things of Snowpeak made Diana branded guns: a little rough around the breech/leade and transfer port, needed the screws tightened and some locktite on the bolt handle threads. The big O-ring that seals the CO2 chamber with the cartridges inside can be problematic: in older guns it was made of black Buna rubber, would swell from the CO2 and get torn if you opened the CO2 chamber with any pressure. As the gun doesn't have a de-gas port, that was a probability. Newer guns have white urethane o-rings which don't swell and last longer. They don't hold pressure for very long (days to week), but one can load only one full (and 2 empty) cartridges for less shots (~25), or two full (~60 shots). And there is a paintball tether adapter if you want a thousand shots:

Diana Chaser Powerlet Conversion System

Diana Chaser Powerlet Conversion System
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There are reviews and info here if you search "Trailscout".
 
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Berserkeley Mike said:
Spyguy's Condor .22 with CO2 adapter in the classifieds will reach out to 50 yards. Mine will put out close to 18 ft# on CO2.
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Where can you get the co2 tanks filled? I have tried calling every one that once filled them but not anymore. I would be happy to ship to have them refilled. I love the gun and on my last tank that was filled in 2018. Charles
 
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Airgun Al said:
As others mentioned, 50 yards is excessive for CO2, but inside of 30 yards is another story.
The QB78 is a little loud, heavy, and requires not one, but two CO2 cylinders per fill.
My recomendation would be a Crosman 1077.
A 1077 trigger will take some getting used to ( or modifications) , but besides that, they are a very lightweight, inexpensive and popular CO2 airgun.
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The Buck Rail suppressor for the QB78 makes it fairly quiet. The trigger is easily adjustable to a very nice, light trigger. My .22 shoots 13.4 gr. pellets @ 650 fps and 15.9 gr. @ 590. I get 35+ FULL power shots. You can get 50-60 shots, but velocity drops rapidly after 35-38. Very accurate @ 25 yds. I guess I didn't save any proof of 50 yd. accuracy, but it was decent and retains 8 fpe w/ 15.9 gr. pellets. Thats enough for a squirrel headshot.
 
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JW652 said:
"Or.... Most folks don't consider pcps because of the hassle and expense associated with air supply. However, if he is a former firefighter he should have friends
who could cobble together some good kit. An inexpensive rifle from Crosman/Benj. or many others) can be American made wood and steel. The quality is good, service is available and he gets 100 shots a fill. Just a thought"
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Firefighters use SCBA tanks and often replace them, perhaps he can pick one of the tanks up, get it re-hydro-ed if necessary, and for the cost of a PCP compressor, or maybe even just have his buddies fill his tanks. He can step up to a PCP without the outrageous cost the rest of us had to go through. ie. buying a very expensive SCBA tank!

Then 50 yards is a piece of cake.

Jerry
 
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