What’s is the most effective yet simple thing you can do to iMotive the grouping of your gun? I’m interested in generalities instead of specific air guns. Replacing lower quality seals with higher quality ones, aftermarket add ons ETC
N/A Accuracy improvements
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Thanks for explaining. The very 1st thing we ALL have to do is find the projectile that provides the best accuracy in any given gun. That will set the bar for performance. Next I guess is tuning or fiddling with power to find how it further lessens or increases the accuracy. What gun in particular are you asking about?
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The best thing that you can do is to make sure you are getting the exact same squirt of air each time. The other thing would be to get a projectile that is as close to the same weight as possible. If you are able to swage our own ammo you can darn near get the same weight for every projectile.
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Yup, as far as the airgun goes, clean the barrel, make sure all hardware is tight and finding the right pellet will get you most of the way to where you want to be.
After that it's usually inconsistencies in the shooter's form that causes large groups.
I'm not being sarcastic when I say that I believe that the best thing that you can do is PRACTICE.
Start CLOSE (like 5 yards close), shoot until you can consistently group your shots inside a one inch circle, then take a step or two back and repeat.
I've found that a simple dot (just big enough to see) makes a good aim point.
Don't have to hit the dot, it's just for reference. It's the consistent groups that are important. Distance and accuracy will come easily once your form is consistent.
When you get to the point that you know the shot didn't go where you expected it should have, then you can start looking at the gun and ammunition.
Have fun!
After that it's usually inconsistencies in the shooter's form that causes large groups.
I'm not being sarcastic when I say that I believe that the best thing that you can do is PRACTICE.
Start CLOSE (like 5 yards close), shoot until you can consistently group your shots inside a one inch circle, then take a step or two back and repeat.
I've found that a simple dot (just big enough to see) makes a good aim point.
Don't have to hit the dot, it's just for reference. It's the consistent groups that are important. Distance and accuracy will come easily once your form is consistent.
When you get to the point that you know the shot didn't go where you expected it should have, then you can start looking at the gun and ammunition.
Have fun!
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For me it is consistency in the way I hold the rifle or pistol. Each PCP has a certain way it likes to be held, some like a light hold and others a heavy hold.....Once I find the hold it likes I try and replicate it every time ....That is after I have found a good pellet and speed.
Tony P.
Tony P.
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The gun you pick shoot it a lot and look for questions about it I have a couple of crowns 22 and 177 shot a tin of pellets in the 177 today trying different things at 35 yards if I am not a maximum of 5/16" Group I got to clean the barrel towards the very end of the day I was getting flyers so I just cleaned it and the patches came out Black with little specks of lead. Put about 20 patches some with balistol.
Find pellets that it likes.
Practice your breathing that could be a flyer that was actually you.
Practice your grip the way you grip makes a difference in consistency.
Find pellets that it likes.
Practice your breathing that could be a flyer that was actually you.
Practice your grip the way you grip makes a difference in consistency.
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As mentioned above, and the next...
A scope height position comfortable to your body posture...you shall never twist your neck to the scope tube but bring the scope in front of your eyes.
A scope height position comfortable to your body posture...you shall never twist your neck to the scope tube but bring the scope in front of your eyes.
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Solid tune would be #1 but also if your barrel isn't up to it, it won't matter. If your barrel doesn't like the projectiles you're using or your tune isn't agreeable with the two, it won't matter. If you have clipping, it won't matter.
Generally I buy a gun that I know will almost certainly come with a superb barrel. Then I tune it. No focus on accuracy yet. Then I use some projectiles that are likely a good match for the barrel and twist rate. See how they shoot, then dial in accuracy within the tune. Polished bore, reinforced barrel, a real nice trigger job. Lots of things can be done.
Tuning, in my mind and in practice is making the gun efficient, yet powerful, snappy. This in theory reduces turbulence inside the gun and out of the muzzle. Also reduces the amount of harmonics in play. And also gets the gun dialed into a zone where it is extremely consistent.
Generally I buy a gun that I know will almost certainly come with a superb barrel. Then I tune it. No focus on accuracy yet. Then I use some projectiles that are likely a good match for the barrel and twist rate. See how they shoot, then dial in accuracy within the tune. Polished bore, reinforced barrel, a real nice trigger job. Lots of things can be done.
Tuning, in my mind and in practice is making the gun efficient, yet powerful, snappy. This in theory reduces turbulence inside the gun and out of the muzzle. Also reduces the amount of harmonics in play. And also gets the gun dialed into a zone where it is extremely consistent.
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Once you have done all of the above, fit a barrel tuner to the end of the barrel and shoot groups on various settings until you get the setting that gives the best group then lock the tuner in that position. But this is the last hurdle, do the stuff above first.
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Assuming that you're using a quality rifle with proven pellets, then forget about equipment and focus on technique, reading conditions, and practice. Consistency is the key. As the race car mechanic said, the most important nut is the one behind the wheel.
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I'm my life, lapping polishing the barrel, cutting the right crown and waxing the bore has allowed for precise shot placement with the right pellet.
The practice of "aim small, hit small" is also a remarkable tool to help your own skills advance.
The stack of pennies drill helps reduce trigger jerk, breathing practice and squeezing as the heartbeat pressure subsides also allows for greater precision.
The practice of "aim small, hit small" is also a remarkable tool to help your own skills advance.
The stack of pennies drill helps reduce trigger jerk, breathing practice and squeezing as the heartbeat pressure subsides also allows for greater precision.
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ALl good answers , I would add , how you control your breathing at the shot release is a huge part of consistency . personally i breath out on the first trigger stage and i am empty on release . i never stop or hold my breath .
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Uh, the improvement question. There are two equations to think of; what you can do to get better groupings and what can be done to your "gun" to get better groupings. As said for your gun, to feed the right projectile and a consistent means of delivery. I am of thought that most air guns will be able to outshoot most shooters. Just say this is a 2 part question.The answer to both questions in one word is consistency.
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