Air Venturi Air leaking while im trying to fill?

[HahahT]

Hi, i just bough my first airgun the, Air Ventura avenger and i cant seem to fill the tank because the female to male adaptor piece is leaking air. I have tried two different female to male adaptors and both have the same issue. Is this just suppose to happen? am i missing something? it leaks from the end part that connects to the gun it self. sorry if this was not clear thanks for any help

 

[HahahT]

There's a one-way valve just inside the gun from the male quick-disconnect fitting, that should prevent any air getting past it from releasing. That's why releasing air from vent on hand pump allows removal of fill whip without pressure.

do u think the air might not even be getting inside the gun? is it possible that the air has no where to go so it just slips out?

 

[WorriedMan]

Your quick disconnect procedure is perfect, air noise on disconnect probably from hose unless one-way valve bad. You can test hand pump by inserting one of these test plugs. You'll find any leaks on the hand pump side of things before considering problem with gun.

 

[HahahT]

Your quick disconnect procedure is perfect, air noise on disconnect probably from hose unless one-way valve bad. You can test hand pump by inserting one of these test plugs. You'll find any leaks on the hand pump side of things before considering problem with gun.View attachment 434549

im not going through the hassle of testing it out. i might as well return it since i just bought it. would you agree that im just not missing something stupid tho hahah

 

[WorriedMan]

do u think the air might not even be getting inside the gun? is it possible that the air has no where to go so it just slips out?

Any blockage of air will result in pressure building in pump, which is exactly what the test plug does. Air escaping while pumping could be a number of things, all located in general location. Dunk test will reveal. Your procedures are spot on, if rubber "O" rings are inside female quick-disconnect air seal should be complete. WM

 

[WorriedMan]

Dunk test only has to involve the parts under discussion, not whole gun. Set it up, with everything correctly connected, pump ready for downstroke, with area in question under water and easily visible, push down on pump to see where air is coming from. Won't hurt anything, just hand pump the one downstroke. WM

 

[HahahT]

Dunk test only has to involve the parts under discussion, not whole gun. Set it up, with everything correctly connected, pump ready for downstroke, with area in question under water and easily visible, push down on pump to see where air is coming from. Won't hurt anything, just hand pump the one downstroke. WM

jusr did the dunk test pump seems to be working fine thansk for all the help

 

[WorriedMan]

jusr did the dunk test pump seems to be working fine thansk for all the help

You mean no air leaks and gun able to be filled? If so, my job here is done, very glad to help. WM

 

[HahahT]

You mean no air leaks and gun able to be filled? If so, my job here is done, very glad to help. WM

no the pump is working fine so it must be the gun so im returning it thanks anyways tho i really appreciate it

 

[Emu]

no the pump is working fine so it must be the gun so im returning it thanks anyways tho i really appreciate it

Have you tried tightening a little bit more the male foster of the rifle?

 

[maxtrouble]

Is there a brass looking filter visible inside the foster fitting? That might be the problem, a defective male foster fitting. This happened on my 1701p pistol and I had to replace the male foster fitting.

 

[GenXer]

There's a big disconnect in the communication on this thread and we have an O.P. that just wants a fix without following the suggestions provided as described. The zoom in zoom out disaster on the first video told me what was going to happen in this thread before it played out.

I think the pump coupler seal is bad. We will never know because he won't plug the coupler and try to pump. He put the pump coupler under water pumped and it made bubbles so he thinks it can't be the pump and has to be the gun.

It could definitely be the foster which kind of looks like it's not threaded all the way in. I'd be taking it out, inspecting it, adding Teflon tape and reinstalling before going through sending it back.

In my opinion.

 

[WorriedMan]

Is there a brass looking filter visible inside the foster fitting? That might be the problem, a defective male foster fitting. This happened on my 1701p pistol and I had to replace the male foster fitting.

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Problem, as I understand, is an air leak in that general vicinity, a plugged male foster would likely cause build-up of pressure in filling system, not a leak, unless male foster was loose, as Emu said, or cracked. WM

 

[GenXer]

im not going through the hassle of testing it out.

Here is the actual problem.

Problem, as I understand, is an air leak in that general vicinity, a plugged male foster would likely cause build-up of pressure in filling system, not a leak, unless male foster was loose, as Emu said, or cracked. WM

Yep and the test you suggested would have told him where the air is coming from but instead he did his own version of the test that shows nothing other than the pump pushes air which we all can see already.

O.P.

The dunk test WM wants you to do requires that the coupler be attached and the barrel along with the couple and foster to be dunked all at once while pumping. If you don't do that you're not performing any tests that will show anything. The other test he mentioned you refused to do which should be the end of any help you receive.

In my opinion.

 

[WorriedMan]

Here is the actual problem.

Yep and the test you suggested would have told him where the air is coming from but instead he did his own version of the test that shows nothing other than the pump pushes air which we all can see already.

O.P.

The dunk test WM wants you to do requires that the coupler be attached and the barrel along with the couple and foster to be dunked all at once while pumping. If you don't do that you're not performing any tests that will show anything. The other test he mentioned you refused to do which should be the end of any help you receive.

In my opinion.

Feel confident OP has enough information to sort this out. Most handpumps include a test plug and dunk test is simple enough to complete. Wish OP well and hope he feels comfortable bringing future problems to the forum. WM

 

[GenXer]

Feel confident OP has enough information to sort this out. Most handpumps include a test plug and dunk test is simple enough to complete. Wish OP well and hope he feels comfortable bringing future problems to the forum. WM

Very kind of you. This level of patience and diplomacy has proven to be unobtainable for me.

 

[WorriedMan]

Very kind of you. This level of patience and diplomacy has proven to unobtainable for me.

The kindness and patience of Biohazardman convinced me to stop lurking and join up, almost three years ago. I couldn't have been any greener, never got angry or short with my newbie questions, try to emulate that in his memory. WM