I know I saw some post of others not liking the look of the bottle design on the avange-X. In different countries do they offer different bottles ? This video shows a guy with a new one with a completely different look I think looks awesome vs the odd shapped coke bottle one most US vendors have . Even the manual for the rifle he has shows a picture of a different bottle . His video is not in English so it's hard to tell . definitely looks slick with a different bottle
Air Venturi Air venturi avenge -x bottle ?
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I saw a video just yesterday with the Avenge X using a different bottle as well. I think he said they were in South Africa. IDK but I hope Air Venturi is taking our criticism of the US bottle version seriously because the US version is hideous! The version I saw as you say is awesome. I have been patiently waiting for the kit to become available but none so far anywhere I have looked. Has anyone have any info on this bottle kit. Here is what I saw:
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Besides ugly, the bottle version is too expensive for a Chinese bottle. Maybe this bottle is cheaper?
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i 2nd this! i really want that bottle . its to the point where i will wait on buying one until it becomes available i just saw the same video been a few weeks since i was last on here but man it looks so much better with the paint ball style bottle 1000% it does not make sense to me that air venturi would not offer that bottle to the US i mean they clearly already manufacture them so why not add that as a option on the bottle setup guns hopefully they listen because half the post i see are people loving the gun minus the bottle look .
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Tyler Patner , Avenge X project manager and also works for Pyramid Air responded. His explanation made sense to me why we don't have that bottle in the USA. His explanation is in the original thread. Here's an excerpt of his response:
1) What may not be clear to everyone is that the 400cc aluminum bottle used in many other parts of the world on the Avenge-X only fills to 250 BAR. Because of this, when you compare the 250 BAR fill bottle to the 300 BAR fill 210cc air tube, you only see a 5-10% shot count increase if you're comparing the same tune. Not a worthwhile increase in my opinion. Compare that with the 300 BAR bottle offered here in the US, and you get a much better ~40% higher shot count over the tube.
2) There are not very many 300 BAR bottle options in the diameter that it used on the Avenge-X (in fact, I am only aware of 2 others). Because of the modular design, and the fact that the drop block on the rifle accommodates both the tube and bottle without additional parts or modification, going to a larger diameter bottle was not in the cards.
3) They call it out in the video, but the rifle with the 250 BAR alu. bottle fills via a fill probe. You will notice a QD on the neck of the bottle, but the position of that QD is not easily controlled (meaning it doesn't always end up where you want it and can access it) and on some models of the rifle, it would be covered by the stock itself. I know fill probes annoy (that may be putting it mildly) most of us, and that was a concession we were not willing to make with the Avenge-X for the US market.
1) What may not be clear to everyone is that the 400cc aluminum bottle used in many other parts of the world on the Avenge-X only fills to 250 BAR. Because of this, when you compare the 250 BAR fill bottle to the 300 BAR fill 210cc air tube, you only see a 5-10% shot count increase if you're comparing the same tune. Not a worthwhile increase in my opinion. Compare that with the 300 BAR bottle offered here in the US, and you get a much better ~40% higher shot count over the tube.
2) There are not very many 300 BAR bottle options in the diameter that it used on the Avenge-X (in fact, I am only aware of 2 others). Because of the modular design, and the fact that the drop block on the rifle accommodates both the tube and bottle without additional parts or modification, going to a larger diameter bottle was not in the cards.
3) They call it out in the video, but the rifle with the 250 BAR alu. bottle fills via a fill probe. You will notice a QD on the neck of the bottle, but the position of that QD is not easily controlled (meaning it doesn't always end up where you want it and can access it) and on some models of the rifle, it would be covered by the stock itself. I know fill probes annoy (that may be putting it mildly) most of us, and that was a concession we were not willing to make with the Avenge-X for the US market.
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The 300 BAR bottle on the US version is made in South Korea, not China. Made by the same company that makes the vast majority of carbon bottles used by the entire industry. Big difference between it and the 250 BAR aluminum Chinese bottle offered in other parts of the world.
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I like the Foster fill collar idea better. Any reason it couldn’t just be coupled with a typical 580 or 700cc CF bottle? Perhaps some different barrel bands to accommodate those larger bottles?
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The location of the QD on the bottle adapter cannot be easily controlled. So while that's not a big deal on the tactical version, there are instances where it would be covered up by some of the other stock types.
Regarding bottle size, the outside diameters on most of those bottles are considerably larger and run very close to (would probably contact) the shroud. The rifles use the same drop block between the tube and bottle version. This reduces the number of parts needed to swap from tube to bottle or vice-a-versa.
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I live in South Africa and have this bottle on my Avenge X. I agree it might look better, but TBH I would happily swop it for the 300 BAR version you guys have in the US. Much more shots. The foster though can be adjusted with grub screws on the collar. Attached some pics for interest.
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I’ll change with you all day long! Look much better! Do you know if there’s any way to order this bottle from South Africa to the USA?
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I have one of these on mine in the Grey color, they are Great. Well Made, and really change the look of the gun
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I don’t recall. I would have to pull up some old data I got from some community members. I have the tube model but make barrel bands for both.
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