Air Venturi Refurbs

Hi folks, Pyramid has/had a batch of refurbished from Air Venturi. I bought an Avenger for $250-, an Eagle Claw carbine for 550, and an Eagle Claw full length for 550-. These are new rifles with no sign of wear or usage. My guess is these where returned due to difficulties encountered with initial fill. Hand pumps and little compressor's often will not seat the valves in new guns. They need a blast from a tank. Think mountiing a tubless tire on a rim only different.
The only refurbished guns I'd avoid are springers, in case someone has dry fired it. In my experience, refurbished guns are a great deal.
 
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My experience with refurbs is that they are problem guns that have been returned. I bought an Avenger last year for $180. The grub screws that hold the barrel on had pressed dimples into the interior of the barrel. It also had 11 washers in the regulator instead of ten. I got a replacement barrel from Air Venturi, it shoots ok now.
Don’t regret buying it, but I view refurb guns as project guns.
 
My experience with refurbs is that they are problem guns that have been returned. I bought an Avenger last year for $180. The grub screws that hold the barrel on had pressed dimples into the interior of the barrel. It also had 11 washers in the regulator instead of ten. I got a replacement barrel from Air Venturi, it shoots ok now.
Don’t regret buying it, but I view refurb guns as project guns.
That's part of the whole air experience. An essentially new project gun with free parts and support! What a great deal!
 
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Ya, do they really look and fix or rebox and pass the potato .. pa ... Lol..

Some guns at a deal that you can get most parts and re- referbish yourself can be worth it as long as it's not the 1/2 the cost price of the gun in total.

Or like said you get one the last guy could not fill easy or did not like the looks of the stock and sent back . His ignorance is your gain thing.

Used is used and its always a dice roll
 
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According to PA, guns that are returned due to mechanical issues are sent back to the distributor/manufacturer. These are checked out and offered to retailers as refurbished.
Ill take that with a grain of salt.. still its a you buy you try and hope it dont make you cry .. ive done it and got the good the bad and some ugly deals.. if somthing of intrest to me comes up i like id probably do another fingers crossed..

You rolled the dice and got a 7. The next guy may of got snake eyes..
 
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Ill take that with a grain of salt.. still its a you buy you try and hope it dont make you cry .. ive done it and got the good the bad and some ugly deals.. if somthing of intrest to me comes up i like id probably do another fingers crossed..

You rolled the dice and got a 7. The next guy may of got snake eyes..
Refurbished is a way better deal then buying a used gun. Worst case scenario. I get a new project gun with free parts and tech advice. And, a fail safe send it back pressure relief option. A good deal in my opinion.
 
Refurbished is a way better deal then buying a used gun. Worst case scenario. I get a new project gun with free parts and tech advice. And, a fail safe send it back pressure relief option. A good deal in my opinion.
True like pa does offer that 60 day return policy that gives you some peace of mind or a chance got get out of it..

I dont buy used like want ad guns unless it's local and a face to face i look it all over first .. then its on me so to say
 
True like pa does offer that 60 day return policy that gives you some peace of mind or a chance got get out of it..

I dont buy used like want ad guns unless it's local and a face to face i look it all over first .. then its on me so to say
The only used gun I would even consider is a modified by an expert gun who needs the money for their next prize!
 
I recently bought a refurb Seneca Dragonfly 2 from PA
I have no idea why it had been returned, or what had been repaired by them.
When it got to me pellets were jamming when loading.
Both via magazine & single shot tray.
Upon examination it appeared as if the pellets were falling off a cliff on the way into the leade.
What I found was every screw securing the barrel was very loose.
Including the barrel screws on top of the receiver, those at the rear sight that pinch the barrel, and those at the cap/front sight that push the barrel in.
As a result, the barrel was not pushed in tight to the block.
An easy fix, yes.
But how they let it leave the shop that way confounds me.
IMO I got a rifle that had been de-furbed as opposed to refurbed.

Just my many cents
Ed
 
I recently bought a refurb Seneca Dragonfly 2 from PA
I have no idea why it had been returned, or what had been repaired by them.
When it got to me pellets were jamming when loading.
Both via magazine & single shot tray.
Upon examination it appeared as if the pellets were falling off a cliff on the way into the leade.
What I found was every screw securing the barrel was very loose.
Including the barrel screws on top of the receiver, those at the rear sight that pinch the barrel, and those at the cap/front sight that push the barrel in.
As a result, the barrel was not pushed in tight to the block.
An easy fix, yes.
But how they let it leave the shop that way confounds me.
IMO I got a rifle that had been de-furbed as opposed to refurbed.

Just my many cents
Ed
You did a great job fixing it! Congratulations
 
I recently bought a refurb Seneca Dragonfly 2 from PA
I have no idea why it had been returned, or what had been repaired by them.
When it got to me pellets were jamming when loading.
Both via magazine & single shot tray.
Upon examination it appeared as if the pellets were falling off a cliff on the way into the leade.
What I found was every screw securing the barrel was very loose.
Including the barrel screws on top of the receiver, those at the rear sight that pinch the barrel, and those at the cap/front sight that push the barrel in.
As a result, the barrel was not pushed in tight to the block.
An easy fix, yes.
But how they let it leave the shop that way confounds me.
IMO I got a rifle that had been de-furbed as opposed to refurbed.

Just my many cents
Ed
I noticed there's a good supply of these used Chinese pumpers available @ PA. Didn't take long for consumers to bail on these rifles, now I know why.
 
I noticed there's a good supply of these used Chinese pumpers available @ PA. Didn't take long for consumers to bail on these rifles, now I know why.
That may be true, @uglymike
However, my issue is not with Seneca.
It is with PA
They should be ashamed to let a refurbed rifle leave their shop in the condition in which mine was sent to me.

As far as running from the Dragonfly2
That's what the yard pests are doing, if they escape.
This gun groups with pellets touching at 15 yards & hits in and around the hole in a CD at 25.
With the OEM open sights.
Not too shabby at all
 
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