Airforce Airforce Condor High Flow Ring-Loc valve vs third party

[Chris888]

As the title suggests, who has swapped the newer Airforce factory valve in their Condor/Condor Ss for a third party (Doug Noble, Talon Tunes, PCP, etc.) and if so what was the result?
It’s hard to tell which factory valve setup was swapped in most of the existing threads and even if new thread rifle age is unknown to assume which valve may have been replaced. Thanks for the info ahead!

 

[7Green]

I initially used Talon Tunes quick change tophat on my condor ss. It worked great, but then the new ringlock design came out by Airforce. The ringlock is a better design imo.

 

[RM.510bigbore]

As the title suggests, who has swapped the newer Airforce factory valve in their Condor/Condor Ss for a third party (Doug Noble, Talon Tunes, PCP, etc.) and if so what was the result?
It’s hard to tell which factory valve setup was swapped in most of the existing threads and even if new thread rifle age is unknown to assume which valve may have been replaced. Thanks for the info ahead!

I'm confused too on which valve for the Airforce Condor is the most powerful... It seems the Doug noble valve is the favorite.... That being said I don't know how much they cost....Or if there is a wait???Doug Noble.is a one man operation... I bought a Condor valve on Amazon rated.to 300 bar....I'm trying it on 27.5inch 12 twist .223 diameter. Barrel...It was only $30.00...I'm trying it first with 90gram hammer and heavy spring...

 

[RM.510bigbore]

I'm confused too on which valve for the Airforce Condor is the most powerful... It seems the Doug noble valve is the favorite.... That being said I don't know how much they cost....Or if there is a wait???Doug Noble.is a one man operation... I bought a Condor valve on Amazon rated.to 300 bar....I'm trying it on 27.5inch 12 twist .223 diameter. Barrel...It was only $30.00...I'm trying it first with 90gram hammer and heavy spring...

Cheap Amazon valve works. But extreme spreads horrible 750 fps to 920 fps.tethered at 3000 psi...The gauge is nice on the valve.and it doesn't leak a.drop of.air...I'm going try another valve...fingers crossed

 

[John "spysir" Blount]

Nor sure about the bottle threads but the Escape valve might suit you if looking for max power. Dont have the post to the valve stem itself (seems like it was slightly different also?) but Mercado help me out - thought about tuning it down- with a picture https://www.airgunnation.com/threads/what-size-is-the-valve-port-on-the-factory-escape-ul.1312958/



John

 

[Berserkeley Mike]

A note about swapping, make sure the replacement valve stem and top hats are the correct diameter! There are (at least) two stock Airforce valve/top hats: one at 0.280 diameter stem that has the Ring-loc configuration to hold the top hat on (basically, two nuts locking on a hollow bolt), and an older design that has a 0.250 diameter stem with 2 tiny allen grub screws to hold the top hat on. They are not interchangeable.
The talontunes quick change hat/valve is the smaller size and is a good replacement for that if one wants to tune for less power or air.

 

[Chris888]

Cheap Amazon valve works. But extreme spreads horrible 750 fps to 920 fps.tethered at 3000 psi...The gauge is nice on the valve.and it doesn't leak a.drop of.air...I'm going try another valve...fingers crossed

It’s been a while since I posted. Thanks for the info! Did you settle on any specific setup?

 

[RM.510bigbore]

It’s been a while since I posted. Thanks for the info! Did you settle on any specific setup?

Yes I have found out the high flow valve assembly from www.trajectron.com with 110 gram weight and there heavy spring works well..They are on sell for $106.00.. 1040 fps with 55 grian in 26inch barrel..More accurate than doug noble valves in .22 cal....The doug noble valve are very powerful im finding acccuracy only at 2500 psi and 920 fps with 55 grain .222 slugs...The noble valve with get to 950 fps easy with 65 grain..Im still testing ive had quite a few small faliures but im getting there... Im waiting on a 9 twist barrel too ..Casting lots of slugs and learning alot..

 

[Chris888]

Yes I have found out the high flow valve assembly from www.trajectron.com with 110 gram weight and there heavy spring works well..They are on sell for $106.00.. 1040 fps with 55 grian in 26inch barrel..More accurate than doug noble valves in .22 cal....The doug noble valve are very powerful im finding acccuracy only at 2500 psi and 920 fps with 55 grain .222 slugs...The noble valve with get to 950 fps easy with 65 grain..Im still testing ive had quite a few small faliures but im getting there... Im waiting on a 9 twist barrel too ..Casting lots of slugs and learning alot..

Thanks for the response. I’m going to check this valve out for the price. I have a TT spring and hammer I’ve been sitting on for a while to pair with it. Thanks!