@SpindleB Posted about this AF knockoff several days ago and a few of us agreed to be be guinea pigs by pulling the trigger
www.airgunnation.com
Mine arrived today and so giving initial thoughts. I'll quantify this first by saying I've owned a few dozen 'real' AirForce Airguns over the years and am quite familiar with the platform.
When ordering from the website, I got a notification of the order as well as a notification when it shipped. 5 minutes after delivery, I also received an email notifying me of the same. Shipping was from California.
The box arrived securely packed, but not double boxed.
Upon opening, this is what I was met with...everything seemed secure and well packed.
Removed the gun from it's wrapper
First thoughts. It feels nice. I cant help but get the feeling of 'cheap', but that may be bias. I had a 'Pinty' scope and it was useless. Still for $250 shipped (thereabouts), it looks good and uses a Huben regulator. Upon filling the gun for a leak check, I saw the reg was set at 14MPA according to the gauge. The pressure gauge was as close as any compared to the large gauge on my fill tank. There was a copious amount of silicon grease on internals so will need to clean some of that off. I heard no obvious leaking when filling the gun, but the test will be overnight. I like the frame design better than the AF guns. The skeletonized look and the pic rails are a welcome addition. The buttpad is actually padded and feels nice.
The moderator is proprietary. I don't know what threads it uses, but a DonnyFL wont fit it. The moderator is removable and is baffled, but quite small.
I really like the bolt on this opposed to the arrangement used by AirForce. At the time of pics, I'd not cleaned grease.
The power wheel has no numbers or indicators other than the screw and hashes
But it is cut out on the other side of the frame so you can more easily turn it and see from the other side, a welcome departure from the AF frame.
There was a manual, some spare o rings and other bits included.
After filling to 3kpsi (I guess I should have read to find out the SWP, but assumed at least 3k), I went outside to do a smoke test.
First impressions:
Cocking is ROUGH. It did smooth out a little over a couple shots, but initially pretty rough. In fact, closing the bolt the first time it 'caught' and pushed the tophat just enough to send the first pellet out the barrel WITHOUT the hammer being released. Good thing I had it pointed in a safe direction. Subsequent shots were smoother, but not what I'd call 'smooth' by any means.
A stock AF trigger is rough. Serviceable but rough. This trigger is worse by far. I don't know if it will break in or needs some polishing or both. Will see later how this translates to accuracy.
There doesn't appear to be much of a leade in on the barrel, if one at all. Pellets were tight and I could feel the rifling engaging at the very start of pushing in a pellet.
The short moderator didn't do a lot, at least on power level 3, according to the hash marks. It wasn't overly loud, but I imagine a lot of folks will want to put a real moderator on it. It doesn't bother me and I like the look of it so may keep it as is.
It sounded like it was putting out decent power, but will verify later. I'll mount a scope on it and do some chrony testing and shoot some groups and see how goes when it warms up just a little more outside!
I'd sold off all my cheaper scopes at the Hickory show a couple years ago and so I'll be putting an Arken on this gun for testing. Either the Arken will make this gun better, or the gun will end up making the Arken worse... I'm not sure yet.
Kidding aside, first impressions were on par with the price point, I guess. Should be easy enough to smooth out the cocking with some polishing and such. The trigger.... I'm not sure yet, but usually there is 'something' that can be done. The true test will be if it can hit what I'm aiming at. More to come later today!
Airforce - Airforce knockoff?
https://pintydevices.com/products/pcp-pellet-gun-air-rifle-with-850-fps-velocity-picatinny-rail Sure looks like a Talon except there is a safety switch above the trigger. $279 and 15% off (i think) if you sign up. -- Matt
www.airgunnation.com Mine arrived today and so giving initial thoughts. I'll quantify this first by saying I've owned a few dozen 'real' AirForce Airguns over the years and am quite familiar with the platform.
When ordering from the website, I got a notification of the order as well as a notification when it shipped. 5 minutes after delivery, I also received an email notifying me of the same. Shipping was from California.
The box arrived securely packed, but not double boxed.
Upon opening, this is what I was met with...everything seemed secure and well packed.
Removed the gun from it's wrapper
First thoughts. It feels nice. I cant help but get the feeling of 'cheap', but that may be bias. I had a 'Pinty' scope and it was useless. Still for $250 shipped (thereabouts), it looks good and uses a Huben regulator. Upon filling the gun for a leak check, I saw the reg was set at 14MPA according to the gauge. The pressure gauge was as close as any compared to the large gauge on my fill tank. There was a copious amount of silicon grease on internals so will need to clean some of that off. I heard no obvious leaking when filling the gun, but the test will be overnight. I like the frame design better than the AF guns. The skeletonized look and the pic rails are a welcome addition. The buttpad is actually padded and feels nice.
The moderator is proprietary. I don't know what threads it uses, but a DonnyFL wont fit it. The moderator is removable and is baffled, but quite small.
I really like the bolt on this opposed to the arrangement used by AirForce. At the time of pics, I'd not cleaned grease.
The power wheel has no numbers or indicators other than the screw and hashes
But it is cut out on the other side of the frame so you can more easily turn it and see from the other side, a welcome departure from the AF frame.
There was a manual, some spare o rings and other bits included.
After filling to 3kpsi (I guess I should have read to find out the SWP, but assumed at least 3k), I went outside to do a smoke test.
First impressions:
Cocking is ROUGH. It did smooth out a little over a couple shots, but initially pretty rough. In fact, closing the bolt the first time it 'caught' and pushed the tophat just enough to send the first pellet out the barrel WITHOUT the hammer being released. Good thing I had it pointed in a safe direction. Subsequent shots were smoother, but not what I'd call 'smooth' by any means.
A stock AF trigger is rough. Serviceable but rough. This trigger is worse by far. I don't know if it will break in or needs some polishing or both. Will see later how this translates to accuracy.
There doesn't appear to be much of a leade in on the barrel, if one at all. Pellets were tight and I could feel the rifling engaging at the very start of pushing in a pellet.
The short moderator didn't do a lot, at least on power level 3, according to the hash marks. It wasn't overly loud, but I imagine a lot of folks will want to put a real moderator on it. It doesn't bother me and I like the look of it so may keep it as is.
It sounded like it was putting out decent power, but will verify later. I'll mount a scope on it and do some chrony testing and shoot some groups and see how goes when it warms up just a little more outside!
I'd sold off all my cheaper scopes at the Hickory show a couple years ago and so I'll be putting an Arken on this gun for testing. Either the Arken will make this gun better, or the gun will end up making the Arken worse... I'm not sure yet.
Kidding aside, first impressions were on par with the price point, I guess. Should be easy enough to smooth out the cocking with some polishing and such. The trigger.... I'm not sure yet, but usually there is 'something' that can be done. The true test will be if it can hit what I'm aiming at. More to come later today!
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