Other AirForce Knockoff First Look + Other Pinty Guns

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nobody1 said:
I want my airguns to be as quiet as possible.
I can still 3D printed better/larger moderators for the 14mm thread, so I can deal with that.

With my airguns I like to have enough magazines for an entire shooting session, and I load them before I start shooting.
I don't think single shot beats that.
I do like single shot, since that's how I started :)

By the way, there are no magazines available.
Are there any compatible magazines?
If not then the single shot may still be the best option.
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So, the time you load a magazine doesn't count. While you were preloading your 60 rounds the single shot was shooting pellets.
 
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rdpjr6504 said:
If anyone is interested in the rifle it is now $259.00 and with code BLACK20 came to $220.48 delivered to my door.
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That one appears to be the Defensor QL22 (snowpeak m16 origins)
www.defensorforever.cl

Rifle PCP QL22

Video de Review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuEa0TU2UAk&t=8s Calibre: 5.5/.22Peso: 2.68 KilosLargo: 95 cmAncho: 16 cmLargo del cañón: 46 cmCapacidad de aire: 260 ccCarga: 250 BarVelocidad: 850 fps con 39 JouleAutonomía: 60 DisparosCapacidad del cargador: 10 TirosRifle reguladoIncluye 2...
www.defensorforever.cl www.defensorforever.cl
 
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nobody1 said:
Why do so many people buy the Airforce clone ?
It looks cool, but:
-it is single shot
-the trigger sucks
-the power adjust may work or not (unclar yet)
-the barrel seems to have a non standard thread (14mm according to a post)
-there is no shroud and the existing moderator is rather small

So, what is the atraction?
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It is easy to get it to perform. It has an actual huben reg, the power adjuster does work, and it's $240 or less shipped with the coupon. Plus a lot of us like to tune and tinker.
 
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SpindleB said:
That one appears to be the Defensor QL22 (snowpeak m16 origins)
www.defensorforever.cl

Rifle PCP QL22

Video de Review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuEa0TU2UAk&t=8s Calibre: 5.5/.22Peso: 2.68 KilosLargo: 95 cmAncho: 16 cmLargo del cañón: 46 cmCapacidad de aire: 260 ccCarga: 250 BarVelocidad: 850 fps con 39 JouleAutonomía: 60 DisparosCapacidad del cargador: 10 TirosRifle reguladoIncluye 2...
www.defensorforever.cl www.defensorforever.cl
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Yes, it is the Defensor QL22.
 
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nobody1 said:
Can the moderator be removed on the Airforce clone?
If yes, what is the thread size?
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M14x1 yes it unscrews.
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Does the bullpup also feature the regulator? I thought that the bullpup was unregulated? While I too would not chase leaks I would give the rifle 3-4 fill cycles before rejecting it. Often the seals settle in...or they don't and you ship it back. So far Pinty has been great handling my shipping damage, hopefully I helped resolve that one. Shipping with the bolt knob in the parts bag is quick easy and cost free. If the bullpup is also regulated, I just may need another "P-Force" :)
Edit: The bullpup is unregulated. Only one gauge, in my least favorite location. It is also unmoderated. Not the Pinty rifle to buy IMHO, tho it does feature a 9 shot magazine and side lever versus bolt. By the time a moderator is added it's about the same overall length as their regulated rifle with moderator. I'm of the opinion the regulated rifle is a steal, the issues are minor and the quality appears high overall.
 
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Ricklin said:
Does the bullpup also feature the regulator? I thought that the bullpup was unregulated? While I too would not chase leaks I would give the rifle 3-4 fill cycles before rejecting it. Often the seals settle in...or they don't and you ship it back. So far Pinty has been great handling my shipping damage, hopefully I helped resolve that one. Shipping with the bolt knob in the parts bag is quick easy and cost free. If the bullpup is also regulated, I just may need another "P-Force" :)
Edit: The bullpup is unregulated. Only one gauge, in my least favorite location. It is also unmoderated. Not the Pinty rifle to buy IMHO, tho it does feature a 9 shot magazine and side lever versus bolt. By the time a moderator is added it's about the same overall length as their regulated rifle with moderator. I'm of the opinion the regulated rifle is a steal, the issues are minor and the quality appears high overall.
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Just because the bullpup doesn't have a reg gauge doesn't mean its not regulated. Nitro Air guns has the Qm23 bull pup and list is as regulated so it appears it does have a regulator
 
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Ricklin said:
Does the bullpup also feature the regulator? I thought that the bullpup was unregulated? While I too would not chase leaks I would give the rifle 3-4 fill cycles before rejecting it. Often the seals settle in...or they don't and you ship it back. So far Pinty has been great handling my shipping damage, hopefully I helped resolve that one. Shipping with the bolt knob in the parts bag is quick easy and cost free. If the bullpup is also regulated, I just may need another "P-Force" :)
Edit: The bullpup is unregulated. Only one gauge, in my least favorite location. It is also unmoderated. Not the Pinty rifle to buy IMHO, tho it does feature a 9 shot magazine and side lever versus bolt. By the time a moderator is added it's about the same overall length as their regulated rifle with moderator. I'm of the opinion the regulated rifle is a steal, the issues are minor and the quality appears high overall.
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The bullpup is regulated and has a shroud with 9 baffles.
It is surprisingly quiet.

These are the actual specs for the bullpup (named Defensor QM-23):
www.defensorforever.cl

Rifle PCP QM23

Review del rifle:https://youtu.be/sRZTJXBtVYY?si=EYSKCugyOsowrSeRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxZLeYF3OF4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOSz3J383YUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TylnCJrsa1A Calibre 5.5/.22Peso: 2.73 KilosLargo: 70 cmAncho: 20 cmLargo del cañón: 45 cmCapacidad de aire: 260...
www.defensorforever.cl www.defensorforever.cl
 
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Ricklin said:
Does the bullpup also feature the regulator? I thought that the bullpup was unregulated? While I too would not chase leaks I would give the rifle 3-4 fill cycles before rejecting it. Often the seals settle in...or they don't and you ship it back. So far Pinty has been great handling my shipping damage, hopefully I helped resolve that one. Shipping with the bolt knob in the parts bag is quick easy and cost free. If the bullpup is also regulated, I just may need another "P-Force" :)
Edit: The bullpup is unregulated. Only one gauge, in my least favorite location. It is also unmoderated. Not the Pinty rifle to buy IMHO, tho it does feature a 9 shot magazine and side lever versus bolt. By the time a moderator is added it's about the same overall length as their regulated rifle with moderator. I'm of the opinion the regulated rifle is a steal, the issues are minor and the quality appears high overall.
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I will shoot it longer, maybe it will seal.
I shot it down (30/40 shots), added silicone oil through the fill probe and refilled.
Hopefull it will stop leaking.
 
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