Other AirForce Knockoff First Look + Other Pinty Guns

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35 yards. 4 of 5 inside a pinky nail. All I've done is a new crown and lightened the trigger. I didn't clean, lap, or polish the barrel yet. After the re-crown I simply blew air through the barrel to blow out any larger debris. It's a single stage trigger with a looong pull. Hard to predict the break so if your not stable it's easy to pull a shot. I'm going to drill and tap the sear for an adjustment screw to reduce the travel and hopefully be more predictable. While it's apart I will see if I can figure out a way to convert it to a 2 stage. Barrel seems really good quality. Looking through it vs an LW you wouldn't know the difference based on eyesight visual alone. A bore scope may show a lot of difference but naked eye test is pretty much identical. 2 pictures so it's proof I'm not covering up additional shots.
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35 yards. 4 of 5 inside a pinky nail. All I've done is a new crown and lightened the trigger. I didn't clean, lap, or polish the barrel yet. After the re-crown I simply blew air through the barrel to blow out any larger debris. It's a single stage trigger with a looong pull. Hard to predict the break so if your not stable it's easy to pull a shot. I'm going to drill and tap the sear for an adjustment screw to reduce the travel and hopefully be more predictable. While it's apart I will see if I can figure out a way to convert it to a 2 stage. Barrel seems really good quality. Looking through it vs an LW you wouldn't know the difference based on eyesight visual alone. A bore scope may show a lot of difference but naked eye test is pretty much identical. 2 pictures so it's proof I'm not covering up additional shots.
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Seems that our experiences are similar. Barrel seems good. I'd not done a crown yet and obviously not done the trigger work. Crown should be this weekend and will see what I can manage with the trigger before harassing you for advice/guidance/a miracle!! Great to see these are working out for folks!
 
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Rob_in_NC said:
Seems that our experiences are similar. Barrel seems good. I'd not done a crown yet and obviously not done the trigger work. Crown should be this weekend and will see what I can manage with the trigger before harassing you for advice/guidance/a miracle!! Great to see these are working out for folks!
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No harassment asking. Like I said before. Worst case on the trigger, we swap. Then I'll do that trigger and swap with someone else that isn't comfortable doing it as well. They don't take that long to do so it will be a cheap upgrade for anyone wanting it.
 
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Average of 5 trigger pulls. Travel cut down by about 70%. Still a single stage but very predictable now.

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5 shots on the chrony.
With 18.13FX pellets

I'll likely keep this tune but run polymags at the higher speed of this tune since they are lighter.

This rifle will likely never see a shot past the 35 yard zero it has now.
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I am impatiently waiting for the brown truck now. My Pinty .22 is due in the next couple hours. I've a scope and rings chosen, I think it will get my old Japan Bushnell 2.5 X 8 X 42 an oldie but goodie from the Bausch and Lomb days. Have new sights to put on my G19 when my brass drift gets here. I need to spend some time with it so it is getting treated to new steel sights. I'll perhaps need to find a muffler for the Pinty. Not nice enough to shoot outside today, basement 10 meter range to the rescue.
 
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thammer said:
Average of 5 trigger pulls. Travel cut down by about 70%. Still a single stage but very predictable now.

866-867-866-869-873

5 shots on the chrony.
With 18.13FX pellets

I'll likely keep this tune but run polymags at the higher speed of this tune since they are lighter.

This rifle will likely never see a shot past the 35 yard zero it has now.
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What PW setting are you getting those speeds at? I seem to recall you had bumped it up, but may have been just for a test. I've got mine at PW3 or a touch less and getting those speeds. Will likely do a typical 'AF Tune' and polish the barrel and such where the hammer, spring rides.
 
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Well mine may need some exploratory surgery. Mounted scope and gassed her up. Bolt is very difficult to get forward and back and in to battery, just stops dead. Feels like too much slop in the mechanism, if I put pressure on the tube to straighten it out it works. Might be a break in thing, but I do not think so. Feels like too much slop between the parts. It does seem to be holding air. I think the metal tube may have something to do with my issue, it looks like the tube in the breech. I sent an email to Pinty for next steps, we shall see how the response is. The trigger is heavy. I like the weight and the scope mounting went smoothly. While lightweight other than the slop in the bolt the gun feels and looks good. I'll see what Pinty has to say I do wish they had a parts breakdown in the manual.
 
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Mine made it today fired it 2 times, it works, so I mounted a scope and check for leaks. I did find a bit more play in the bolt than nessary will look into that deeper, though if one pays attention and lines it up gently, it does work LOL

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I did some crony work, reg at 13.5 mpa, took a few shots to settle in, after initial fill. Second fill showed no creep, and velocities were between 875 and 880, with 17.6 gr. Norma's, single 3/8 inch hole at 10m after 50 shots.
So far so good. I am thinking a plastic shim on the left side of the bolt probe to guide the alignment to the valve up consistently.
 
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Exactly right it is the "slop" in the relationship between the bolt and the receiver. Initially mine was tightly jammed. I managed to get the bolt moving and now if I guide the bolt the gun functions. Using the bolt handle only it jams hard. I would like that corrected rather than being blown off with a request for more data. SOP for Chinese vendors and it annoys me. They PRETEND to not understand the issue in hopes you give up and go away.
 
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I will ad my video of the bolt issue some have here :)
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So it looks like the Pinty, despite having a looonger thin part of the barrel, doesn't support the breech adequately. On the AF guns, the sliding breech is milled to a close enough tolerance that it doesn't wobble on the barrel like the Pinty. That and maybe some o-rings keeps it centered.
Are there any o-rings missing from the forward end of that sliding breech? Can the barrel be indexed closer to the top hat and valve, to better support the breech? Obviously for an "after tech support fails" scenario.
 
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Berserkeley Mike said:
So it looks like the Pinty, despite having a looonger thin part of the barrel, doesn't support the breech adequately. On the AF guns, the sliding breech is milled to a close enough tolerance that it doesn't wobble on the barrel like the Pinty. That and maybe some o-rings keeps it centered.
Are there any o-rings missing from the forward end of that sliding breech? Can the barrel be indexed closer to the top hat and valve, to better support the breech? Obviously for an "after tech support fails" scenario.
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I shot this target today with Norma 17.6 gr. pellets benched at 10m, I was the deciding factor if I hit the X, the trigger trips true and clean, even though it feels heavyish.
Actually after some trigger time I learned how to "Float the Bolt" and never had a hiccup.

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