N/A Airgun Newb (Sort-of). Lots of Questions-Part1

[Kalbster]

I'm not completely a newb, but I am pretty inexperienced. I have a Benjamin Maurader and have a compressor as well as a cascade system at the fire dept.

I'm looking for another airgun... or two. I'd really like both a semi-auto and a full-auto. The semi auto I'm looking for I think should be focused more on cost effectiveness rather than accuracy. I was looking at a Hatsan Velox PCP Pistol or a Sig Sauer MCX Virtus Rifle. (Both in the $300-$350 range) I like the idea of the pistol and being more portable, but I've heard the Hatsan is not good. I like the Sig for the 30rd mag capacity, but I don't know how it works. Does it require a battery? How big of a pain are the pellet belts, and do they hold up?

This seems like this is getting way too long, so I won't go into full-auto questions, and converting CO² to pcp. These are the kinds of questions I'd normally get answered at a local airgun store if I had one within 2 hours of me, but there are none... So I could really use your expertise.

Kalbster

 

[6gun]

I'm not completely a newb, but I am pretty inexperienced. I have a Benjamin Maurader and have a compressor as well as a cascade system at the fire dept.

I'm looking for another airgun... or two. I'd really like both a semi-auto and a full-auto. The semi auto I'm looking for I think should be focused more on cost effectiveness rather than accuracy. I was looking at a Hatsan Velox PCP Pistol or a Sig Sauer MCX Virtus Rifle. (Both in the $300-$350 range) I like the idea of the pistol and being more portable, but I've heard the Hatsan is not good. I like the Sig for the 30rd mag capacity, but I don't know how it works. Does it require a battery? How big of a pain are the pellet belts, and do they hold up?

This seems like this is getting way too long, so I won't go into full-auto questions, and converting CO² to pcp. These are the kinds of questions I'd normally get answered at a local airgun store if I had one within 2 hours of me, but there are none... So I could really use your expertise.

Kalbster

C02 to air. Paintball hpa tanks with 850 psi regulator output are an ez ticket. You'll get a little bump in speed and power from a less dense gas. There's ways to adapt c02 guns that aren't bulk filled but you'll need to be handy and have some tools and knowhow. If you have a gun you want to convert post it and how it uses c02.

Anything is possible with enough tools/talent/money/time.

 

[JimNM]

IMHO - you are wasting time and effort buying a 2-door car and expecting to transform it into a dump truck.

Can it be done? Yes
Can it be done well? No
Can it be done easily? No
Will it be worth the effort? NO - unless that is your focus with the hobby - making the improbable do the thing is was not designed to do. Some people thrive in the "maker" space.


Why do you want full auto? Going that route definitely reduces accuracy and shot count. Generally, those are already very poor for pistol platforms. - BUT -, it's your money. You don't have to find your Airgun Happiness where and how I find my Airgun happiness.

CO2 vs PCP - way different design considerations and they are not interchangeable parts in most cases. CO2 max vessel pressure is 1800 psi. PCP guns often times wont cycle the valve correctly at that pressure. 3000-3650 PSI is common, and some are running up to 4500 psi.

Good luck to ya'
Shoot'em good

 

[Kalbster]

"unless that is your focus with the hobby - making the improbable do the thing is was not designed to do. Some people thrive in the "maker" space."

That is not where I thrive. The full auto topic, I talk about in my other post... Part2 lol, but think it would be fun to have something full-auto that was legal, even if it wasn't practical.

I knew there would be challenges but I am okay not going that route. As for accuracy, I really like my Maurader or 22-250. I was just thinking one of the semi autos would be fun. Mostly just wanted recommendations.

 

[OneAcreFarmer]

I have had the Hatsan Velox for quite some time now and probably shot over 2,000 rounds thru it. It just recently quit cycling properly because the rod that opens the bolt probe had broken a while ago and finally wore enough that it would bind. That being said, it is a lot of fun. I emailed a parts request to Hatsan for a new linkage and received it within a week. Got a spare right away too. So about $17 later we are up and running as good as new. I have an older Hatsan gun as well and I think the machining quality is better on the newer Velox. Maybe they are stepping up their game a little. I would buy the Velox again but you would be best off waiting for a sale like I did. I purchased my from Pyramyd Air for around $340. Don’t expect great accuracy and you won’t be disappointed. I use it for 15 yard plinking at steel targets and it works well.