N/A Airgun Newb (Sort Of). Lots of Questions-Part2

[Kalbster]

To recap, I'm not completely a newb, but I am pretty inexperienced. I have a Benjamin Maurader and have a compressor as well as a cascade system at the fire dept.

I am really interested in a full-auto PCP rifle. I have two problems with the full-auto PCP rifles I've looked at. First, they're hella expensive, and second, the ammo capacity sucks.

I've seen co² bb guns that are full-auto, and they look great for what I want, after all, accuracy isn't very high up on the list for this gun. And with the amount of ammo I'd be going through, the cheap bbs would be awesome. (I'm picturing the full auto bb guns from the fair). My issue is, I'd rather not have to mess with co². So, can we convert a co² rifle to PCP? Also, does anyone know anyone that does that, and what are the drawbacks?

I've seen refillable air cartridges on Temu and other sites and even thought about converting other co² pistols to air, but wondered about the viablility.

Thanks for reading, any advice is appreciated.

Kalbster

 

[OneAcreFarmer]

Maybe something like the Barra 400 would fit your needs.

 

[Motorhead]

To recap, I'm not completely a newb, but I am pretty inexperienced. I have a Benjamin Maurader and have a compressor as well as a cascade system at the fire dept.

I am really interested in a full-auto PCP rifle. I have two problems with the full-auto PCP rifles I've looked at. First, they're hella expensive, and second, the ammo capacity sucks.

I've seen co² bb guns that are full-auto, and they look great for what I want, after all, accuracy isn't very high up on the list for this gun. And with the amount of ammo I'd be going through, the cheap bbs would be awesome. (I'm picturing the full auto bb guns from the fair). My issue is, I'd rather not have to mess with co². So, can we convert a co² rifle to PCP? Also, does anyone know anyone that does that, and what are the drawbacks?

I've seen refillable air cartridges on Temu and other sites and even thought about converting other co² pistols to air, but wondered about the viablility.

Thanks for reading, any advice is appreciated.

Kalbster

Understand that Co2 is stored as mostly a liquid, then used once a gas. What this miens is you have in a sense a liquid Gas tank that keep delivering usable vaporous gas, that with temps of @ 60 - 100*f has a working pressure of about 1100 -1300 psi if recalling correctly ?
Now a PCP is using HPA ( high pressure air ) and it's pressure is how much gas you have got, as its use diminishes it's pressure unlike Co2.

Any air gun designed for Co2 can use HPA if done so threw a regulator taking the much higher HPA ( generally 3k to 4.5k ) and stepping it down to Co2 pressures. Subjecting a Co2 spec AG to more pressure is VERY very dangerous !!!
This day & age I know of no manufacturer making such conversion parts or pieces any longer. Have a Co2 AG, use it on Co2

 

[beerthief]

Have you really thought about how much $$$$$$$$$$ pellets would cost on full auto ?
AS an Example :
A friend got a present for his wife . to shoot a full auto gun for her Birthday
She emptied a clip , ask if she could go again , again
250 rounds and 10 minutes later he had to pay for 250 rounds of .45 ammo . plus range time and gun rental .

 

[markhooper]

Understand that Co2 is stored as mostly a liquid, then used once a gas. What this miens is you have in a sense a liquid Gas tank that keep delivering usable vaporous gas, that with temps of @ 60 - 100*f has a working pressure of about 1100 -1300 psi if recalling correctly ?
Now a PCP is using HPA ( high pressure air ) and it's pressure is how much gas you have got, as its use diminishes it's pressure unlike Co2.

Any air gun designed for Co2 can use HPA if done so threw a regulator taking the much higher HPA ( generally 3k to 4.5k ) and stepping it down to Co2 pressures. Subjecting a Co2 spec AG to more pressure is VERY very dangerous !!!
This day & age I know of no manufacturer making such conversion parts or pieces any longer. Have a Co2 AG, use it on Co2

so pyramid air does sell a conversion kit for the storm.. it's a adapter that replaced the two CO2 cartridges and has a foster fill fitting on the end..I believe they are made for tethering to a paintball regulated tank..
Mark

 

[markhooper]

Have you really thought about how much $$$$$$$$$$ pellets would cost on full auto ?
AS an Example :
A friend got a present for his wife . to shoot a full auto gun for her Birthday
She emptied a clip , ask if she could go again , again
250 rounds and 10 minutes later he had to pay for 250 rounds of .45 ammo . plus range time and gun rental .

I've got a hatsan blitz, it's ok, trigger pull is very hard.. but I mostly shoot semi auto with it..
I can't imagine having it in any of the available caliber other than my 22 because it would be very expensive to feed, 25&30 caliber would be too much money.. but nothing near as expensive as a PB
mark

 

[Gerry52]

Imho, full auto for pellet guns is a gimmick. You'd probably find more posts here with complaints & problems with semi & full auto vs posts extolling their virtues.