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Testing different slugs in the 357 rattler:

357 Cast Slugs

This thread is for all of the slugs I've cast and tested. Maybe I'll find a few good combinations to recommend for others. Left to right. Weights listed are from casting with 40:1 lead/tin. 1. Lee 90316 107 grain 2. An alteros inspired mold I made 3. MP Molds 10929 120 grain 4. MP Molds...
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I saw those videos and it had me wondering. You never know which shape of slug it will or won't like. It could be that even if I size mine down to .452 or .454, they still might be inaccurate. If that's the case, I will have been better off finding a better, swage-able shape and getting it made in the appropriate diameter swage die from the start rather than wasting money on reducers.

If anyone has reducers that would size down either my .46 or .457 slugs to .452 and or .454, definitely let me know, even better if you also have a long strike. Even if you don't, I'd be willing to compensate someone for reducing some and then sending them to someone else with a long strike who is also gracious enough to help, or maybe I'll have one by then, as i am going to get one regardless if my slugs work well or if i have to find something else. I have a good feeling that my slug shape will work OK, but you never know. The good news is I can at least make a variety of lengths and weights.
 
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caliusoptimus said:
Side note on the mr hollow point videos...

His chrono reads too fast. His 357 video showed it doing 300fpe which is absurd for a stock rattler. Gotta push every last drop just to get to the advertised 270fpe.
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It would also be prudent to be mindful of his terminology. He calls parts of the rifle by misnomers that do not correspond to terms in the owner's manual.
 
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As an experiment with accuracy, the LDC, and carbon tubing setup, I bought s 2mm thick carbon sleeve for the barrel and a short muzzle brake. It makes the overall length shorter, looses some forward weight, and calms the muzzle jump. The brake could be more effective if it were longer with move porting. The muzzle threads are metric M17-1 for the 45, which is an odd thread size for most muzzle brakes so it was harder to source. I drillerd out a 30 caliber brake to 1/2" easily enough.
 
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tibor said:
wheres the 100 yard groups..50 yards is not good enough..just saying
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@tibor Not got good enough for who? Who are you addressing your question to? There are YouTubers that have shot at various distances. It would help if we n=knew which caliber you were referring to. I think @Cheplicki shot paper at longer distances than 50 yards, but it's been a while since I watched his Rattler videos.

How's 200 yards?
 
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Ezana4CE said:
@tibor Not got good enough for who? Who are you addressing your question to? There are YouTubers that have shot at various distances. It would help if we n=knew which caliber you were referring to. I think @Cheplicki shot paper at longer distances than 50 yards, but it's been a while since I watched his Rattler videos.

How's 200 yards?
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these are power full guns..100 yards tells mores ,I like the 45 and would love to see the results
 
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tibor said:
these are power full guns..100 yards tells mores ,I like the 45 and would love to see the results
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I'll post up some groups later this next week. I lost the pics taken last month with a smashed phone. My groups with shortened NSA 350 grain HP-RBT slugs, shortener to just under 1" and weighing in at 343 grains, were closing in on moa group size at 100 yards. Without some fliers, they were definitely MOA accurate. The shorter NSA lead didn't shoot so well, and that may be because they were sized down to .454" and too loose in the bore.
 
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@tibor My Rattler .357 actually isn’t as powerful as some repeaters that are on the market within the same caliber like my Benjamin Bulldog M357. The trade off for power seems to be the ability to take quick follow-up shots with the Rattler. I’m becoming more accustomed to the hammerless design. It has its advantages like adjusting the power wheel on the fly for increased velocity.
 
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Ezana4CE said:
@tibor My Rattler .357 actually isn’t as powerful as some repeaters that are on the market within the same caliber like my Benjamin Bulldog M357. The trade off for power seems to be the ability to take quick follow-up shots with the Rattler. I’m becoming more accustomed to the hammerless design. It has its advantages like adjusting the power wheel on the fly for increased velocity.
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I do have a m3 impact 35 cal..its a blast to shoot..I feel my 30 cal panthera is better..I go to the local range and get the powder burners attention..that 457 cal got my interest
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@tibor I'm really interested the .45 Western Rattler Long Strike. I think it boasts some good FPE. The Rattler .357 seems good enough for skunks, armadillos, beaver, feral dogs, coyotes, hogs, and maybe small to medium deer if I were to use a "one gun for everything" approach. That .45 looks like it may be able to handle larger game at longer distances. I haven't felt out the .357 Rattler as far as range to comfort level of acceptable power produced for specific quarry, but so far I like it for what it seems to be. The ability to take quick follow up shots is convenient, but I still have to get used to taking those shots. If you take a Rattler to your range, you'll get some attention.
 
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