Daystate Alpha Wolf factory tune

In factory tune my new Alfa Wolf Safari doesn't seem to save the tune settings after it sets the chronograph projectile velocity. After the gun times out it seems the computer has to do the recalibration again when I turn the gun back on. I did the Centercut method of finding the optimal lowest regulator pressure and that doesn't seen to help much. It does the same thing using the recommended regulator pressure. Is anyone else experiencing this, I thought it was supposed save the tune when the computer times out.

Thanks a ton for the help AGN community.
 
It sounds like you're not finalising /saving the tune it's a bit of a pain until you get the hang of it, I just program via the factory computer software and use those settings rather than the others.
I got the assumption he was referring to the auto tune settings. It had to re do itself whenever it’s restarted/times out. Seems normal to me. Not sure though.
 
Hi Slcrcflyer,
Congratulations with your new Alphawolf.
I guess you ask about a FAC version?
When you receive a new Alpha Wolf or Delta Wolf the Factory mode is almost like a book with fresh white pages.
Daystate should have supplied the rifle with Programmes for known slugs and pellets from the factory.

When you shoot in factory mode you set a speed and depending on your pellet weight, Pellet or slug and your pressure reg. settings it will shoot - measure the speed and try to correct itself. Example If you put in a 10 grain pellet at .177 wil be to chose 13.42 gr which is a lot heavier than what you put into the rifle.
If the speed when you shoot are within + or - 100 fps of the requested speed the rifle will start correcting the speed and it will find the right speed over the next shots you shoot. When you get so it shoots four consecutive where the speed is within +/- 4 fps - it will automatically save the settings so you will be able to recall the setting again later. But if your magazine runs out of pellets and you need to refill ......... time goes.......... Daaaam time out on the rifle - When you wake up the rifle again by turning safety off and on again it is new born again. And that is a pain in the ... So make sure you set your time out so long time so you can refill your mag. and reshoot before it times out. Many ready magazines are very handy .....

Worse for you if your speed that you ask for is out of the 100 fps plus or minus you are doomed.

But it is possible to create your own Factory programs with a Daystate USB programmer interface dongle or whatever its called.
Below is a screenshot of my custom made Delta Wolf Factory settings:
Under .177 at the left I added programs for my 23" barrel for both my favorite pellets and slugs.
You need for a custom program to find at least three known speed settings. These test you can do by test shooting in the Advance program mode.

This map below was from before I did several updates to the rifle - Ultra valve - 1.5 mm Pin probe and opened the transfer port in the barrel from ø3.2 mm to an Oblong hole 3.5 mm x 5,5 mm. Before my updates the 970 fps was near maxing out the rifle - Now it can shoot 16 gr. with the same pressure at 1100 fps -
So after the power updates I needed to redo all my custom maps since the speeds were to far away from the speeds in the chart.
You need to decide 3 speeds:
Slowest - Fastest and minimum one known speed approx in the middle of the speed range.
Here below I said Slugs 700 fps is slowest possible Fastest
I chose 970 fps which was maximum i could achieve with the standar Delta wolf at 170 bar.
You test shoot and experiments in the Advanced mode finding what Volt and Pulse with you need to find the speed 700 fps and the 970 fps.
When you test you find speeds like below 950 fps was pulse 2350 and 80V take notes you can use these speeds and settings too.
If you look in the chart below, the row 1 - 13 the program as from that day.
The row numbers where you see a crosshair means that the rifle automatic calculated values and stored these new rows when it reached four consecutive shots where the speed was within +/- 4 fps.
So this means my custom program started with only 8 lines - since then the rifle learned and added 5 additionally rows automatically.
Only three lines are needed to make the automatic programme working so you dont need all the 8 lines i originally entered. But since i by testing found this informations it was easy to enter this as well.

KO 13.43.jpg


When it comes to pressures - Working pressure is easy - You just choose the pressure you prefer and need.
Optimal pressure is best explained from the software manual below. In this example optimal pressure is 130 bar.
Minimum pressure is the the minimum pressure where the rifle still can deliver the requested speed in the example below its 90 bar.
Here there is a lot of test shooting to find the optimal and minimum pressure for each speed. So here I tested at slowest speed only.
When you set Min. pressure - it is when you cross below you are getting warning low pressure. But I dont care I keep shooting down to +25 bar above the reg. pressure as a rule of thumb.
Deltawolf Factory mode speed compensation.jpg


I am sorry if this gets to hairy for you and your new rifle - but its worth while to do a bunch of custom programs - It is so nice to test new slugs or pellets - being able to just change speed + 20 fps and test again within seconds all the way from slow till too fast. Like in last weekend It was 10 grain 50 yard testing day. What pellet and slug was most accurate - I testet four different pellets (All my favorite 10 grain pellets at different speeds ranging from sub 12 fpe up to 970 fps.) Also i did the same test with Zan 10 gr. Knockout slugs 10.03 Mk1 - Mk. 2 and Mk. 3) I found the most accurate pellet to be QYS 9.56 Streamlined and the Superior to all was the new JSB Knockout mk3 slugs. Zan 10 was second. But most impressive was that the Mk 3 knockout was superior accurate with speeds down to 700 fps and all the way up to 970 fps. Even with the not optimal speeds they shoot better than most pellets and other slugs. But at the sweet spot speeds - My god they are accurate at 50 yards. not a single flier out of 3 magz = 36 shots.......

Image from testrange at my work 47m (Close to 50 yards)

Testshooting indoor 10 gr day.jpg

Feel free to contact me for further help - You got a great rifle once you get some Factory programs up and running. The only Daystate fault is that the speed is not stored in your custom factory program - You need to note that separately and enter the optimum speed you noted manually, because the rifle only remembers the last speed you were shooting - regardless of which custom factory mode program you used last time. This is just annoying - but I can live with it since factory mod made the AW and DW the best test rifles you can get.

Regards from Denmark
PCPOlsen
 
In factory tune my new Alfa Wolf Safari doesn't seem to save the tune settings after it sets the chronograph projectile velocity. After the gun times out it seems the computer has to do the recalibration again when I turn the gun back on. I did the Centercut method of finding the optimal lowest regulator pressure and that doesn't seen to help much. It does the same thing using the recommended regulator pressure. Is anyone else experiencing this, I thought it was supposed save the tune when the computer times out.

Thanks a ton for the help AGN community.
That was a VERY nice workup by @engfred but did not answer your question...
The rifle is SUPPOSED TO save the last shot info on timeout. This has been addressed in one or more of the last few updates by Daystate. Mine seems reasonably reliable but not necessarily perfect at this but I'm still running 2 updates back... mainly off a little if I top up between... I need to update mine and check again I suppose...
If you are lowering the pressure and first shot is still significantly off, you might pop the hammer assembly out and see if it is clean and the return spring is good. There was a batch of return springs that were breaking, back a while.
If your software is up to date and all seems healthy, contact Daystate directly..
Bob
 
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ArzRover ... I run the latest firmware on my DW -
And I tested to confirm - my rifle stores nothing if it times out, before it achieves the four consecutive +/- 4 fps shots and then stores automatically.
So i secure myself being well prepared with just about enough full DIY magazines :) until it stores the setting with a new row in the chart with a crosshair.
When the settings is stored - It is within 10-15 fps on the first shot returning to a previous stored speed month later.
DW mags.jpeg



And since The AW and DW it is so power hungry i set screen time-out and switch off low. I actually designed a new rear part holding a 1800 mamp battery. The Lipo i then charge to store capacity 3,87v /cell giving me around 1000 mamp use - without risk of damaging the lipo battery.