Alternate scoring method - Like Golf

[SkeeterHawk]

When you do the bench rest, the goal is to get the highest score. You shoot the center, you get a 10, and essentially get "penalized" a point for every cm that you are off from that target. What if you "flipped that on it's head" and said that you get scored by the total amount of deviation that you get from the center of the target to the center of the hole. The higher the score, the farther you were consistently from the target. If you get a "0", that is the same as 25x's. At least on the surface, but if you are measuring in high resolution, center-to-center, there could almost never be a tie. This scoring method wouldn't leave anything to interpretation, unless it was where the center of the hole or target was. You could have the scale in Inch or MM, as long as it was the same for everyone.

Looking at the bet between Fly and Les in the 2022 Monthly Shooting Challenge made me think of this, and I didn't see anything like it on the past in the Forum. I am an engineer, so I don't do well with ambiguity. Using this method, you could pull out a caliper and a calculator...and one of them would have a lower score, and would be $42 richer.

 

[Arzrover]

Years ago, Tim MacMurray sponsored a shoot during one of LD's Temecula Challenge matches. We shot at dots on 1/8" grid graph paper in LD's tunnel at 51 yards. They were scored by adding up the total dispersion from the dot, as you are suggesting. The graph paper made scoring a matter of counting the blocks on the grid and the total was used in the manner you suggested ... lowest total wins.

Doug Miller won with Vipha's P70, iirc, with LD and my wife close behind.

Fun times!

Bob

 

[brink]

In the Cast Bullet Association we have a match where you shoot five shots at five targets for score for a total possible 250 points. And then, they measure each of the targets for group size add them together and subtract the total from the score. That makes for an interesting match, about half way through the match you get to do some head scratching to see which way you want to go.

 

[SkeeterHawk]

In the Cast Bullet Association we have a match where you shoot five shots at five targets for score for a total possible 250 points. And then, they measure each of the targets for group size add them together and subtract the total from the score. That makes for an interesting match, about half way through the match you get to do some head scratching to see which way you want to go.

This sounds really interesting. There is SOO much education to be had in precision shooting. I was looking into the Cast Bullet Association, and they have three types of matches:

1. Military Rules
2. Postal Rules
3. Benchrest Rules
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   It seems that what you were describing was the Military Rules match. That said, I didn't see how you get the initial 250 points, but my brain isn't totally "on" today as I have been doing taxes for the last few days straight. I'm anxious to see this with fresh eyes as a shooting match with strategy beyond "hit close to the dot" sounds really interesting.

 

[brink]

This is a special side match usually held the day before the main event starts. It started out as the Quarter Bore Match which was for .25 cal single shot rifles which can be breech seated and shot at 100 yards. Well, the Single Shot guys were having so much fun with it that the rest of the members wanted in on the fun. The Quarter Bore guys wanted to keep their match separate so the bolt action guys started their own score and group match called the Lil' Bore match which is still limited to .25 cal but any kind of rifle is allowed and it too is fired at 100 yards. 

I have thought that this would be a good fun match for air rifles but shoot at 50 yards just need to find a suitable target. The target that the CBA guys use is has six bulls on the target, one is the sighter and then of course five shots on each of the other bulls. 

I went and looked around for targets and something like the IBS 100 yd HR target found at National Target Co. would be something like the target that the CBA guys use. I don't know how big the 10 ring is on the IBS 100 yd HR, the ten ring on the CBA target is .74 inches, at fifty yards I think that would be too big. Of course, it could be shot at 100 yards like the CBA guys do but that would make it tough for a lot of air gun guys and might discourage a lot of people from shooting it, it is supposed to be fun after all!

 

[SkeeterHawk]

I have thought that this would be a good fun match for air rifles but shoot at 50 yards just need to find a suitable target.

I agree, brink! This sounds like a lot of fun to do. Looking at the targets on the forum, the 50-yard sight-in would be about perfect for what you are talking about.

On the Monthly Shooting Challenge for January 2022, I went ahead and scored the two shot cards. Since it really needs to be here, here is the break-down:

I'll leave it to Fly and Less to determine a true winner, but this would be how I would apply this to my method of scoring.

 

[MikeinWV]

Interesting format.

 

[SkeeterHawk]

Interesting format.

Thanks!

It can only work in a benchrest type of condition where all shooters are experiencing the same conditions since it is so exact. Increasing the granularity of the measurements, like Arzrover said about using the squares on the graph paper, will make it easy enough to judge visually...much like it is for the current benchrest scoring. Using this method, you could shine a light through the target and you can use a scanner to determine the distance from the center. You may have to put a pinhole in the center for the scanner (for the initial version) to get an exact center, but this could be a means of sending your benchrest target into a scanner like you do a scantron in school (figuratively). There are a number of ways of doing the "input" without having to have a 2x4' flat-bed scanner, but the concept is there if you have a high-resolution picture of the target with some sort of backlight behind it.

Anyone interested in investing in an automated scoring system for benchrest? For the initial rollout, the resulting distance could be appended with the traditional scoring system, and this system would be the deciding factor. After everyone gets used to this system running in the background as the "mediator", it could grow to be the standard. Thoughts?