It's called being lazy and/or "Resting on their laurels". I'm so glad Fx shook the market up alongside some youtubers.. The industry needed it. Sound like the orange guy that must not be named.
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American Air Arms, RAW, RTI and every other brand that doesn’t have disassembly videos GET WITH THE TIMES!
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I don't know if I fully agree with the sentiment here. I don't think manufacturers should be strongarmed into making videos of taking apart their airguns. My first thought is how this could void a warranty. My second thought is those who should not be taking apart guns will do so, muck them up, and then pass along that junk on the secondary market. In terms of the retailers who have staff who work on guns - what you describe is taking away their livelihood - why should they make a video which puts them out of work. End user logic - best of luck.
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It is already the way things are going. In fact, the other manufacturers who are not producing “how to videos” will only hurt their business in the long run. These guns are not complicated to dissemble and fix. It is just that there are some nuances that need to be reviled when one does take them apart. Like needing a special tool to remove a valve etc… There will always be people who don’t have the time to watch a video and fix their gun, so I doubt it will hurt the techs lively hoods.
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I see where you are coming from but that is just something that the companies are going to have to learn to deal with, especially now that some companies like FX and Daystate have complete video series on how to do stuff. If someone doesn't want to do the work, and are willing to give up their gun to the shippers and the manufacturer (or tuner) they can always do that. However, someone like myself is never going to ship a gun to anyone unless it is for replacement. I won't buy a gun I can't fix, and I look for the companies that are willing to help me, help them, get the problem fixed the quickest way possible, namely me. The secondary market is not my concern at all. People have always, and always will, have to be careful when buying used. With airgunning becoming more popular, nobody at the service centers are going to be put out of work any time soon either, with the video tutorials the companies won't have to expand service departments either. It's a win - win for everybody.
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I’ve had bad experiences shipping guns out and with tuners, so I completely agree. In regards to the second hand market, people who don’t know what they are doing are going to dissemble guns with, or with out a how to video. So it is a moot point. Rather have a video on it, so that they hopefully do not mess up lol.
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Yes, and Yes, especially if it needs special tools. I am not kidding either. That is my one big bi#$% with my AAA. I needed to buy a special tool for barrel removal. The gun is aces though.Maybe the manufacturers should include a full repair manual and complete set of tools also ?
of course the price would reflect this cost .
Of course this would also effect the manufacturer's Liability cost also .
I laugh when people say how it will cost money to make a video. Seriously? People go on vacation now with a GoPro glued to their forehead and make cinematic sagas of their trips for us all to suffer watching, but somehow this is a huge expense and a problem for a corporation. They can just have their kids make the videos, they're already good at it. lol
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I don't think the tools are necessary on the AAAs. I changed the reg pressure on my Evol Mini without them the other day. I removed the fill port and gauge (without gauge tool) then wedged the barrel and tube alittle and removed end cap. Can remove airtube that way also. So not necessary unless you want to remove the barrel which isn't really needed. But I understand your point.
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Only rebuttal I'll offer is this .... just because a video is made showing one "How Too" does not take into account for the Many who should NOT being doing such work, don't have the correct tools, techniques of a seasoned mechanic etc ...
Ham Fist wrenching happening, then after screwing it up contacting a professional is nothing new. Sad fact is that the screw ups of beating pounding & prying among other Don't do thats !!! only make the end job more costly.
Cliche as it is .... Know your abilities and work within them. AG service is by in large not that difficult, modifications & altering stuff w/o screwing up parts an entirely different thing.
As you were
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Agreed I was told the DRS video would be out in August. Then the M4 is released, now nobody at FX has time for the DRS. How much effort can it take to make a breakdown video? Why try when excuses are so easy.
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Regarding upgrading of RAW I have made some YouTube videos which may be helpful for technical users.
Similarly recently I made a video on how to rebuild the RAW regulator. That may also be helpful.
But just like Motorhead has said that one should know one's capabilities before indulging into it. Otherwise things may get worse. Resulting into even more cost to fix it.
Recently I have also made a YouTube video regarding in how bad condition a RAW came to me and how I fixed it.
It appears that the user or the 1st tuner didn't know anything about RAW and was not a technical person due to which the cost of fixing was 5 times more than a well kept RAW.
Bhaur
Similarly recently I made a video on how to rebuild the RAW regulator. That may also be helpful.
But just like Motorhead has said that one should know one's capabilities before indulging into it. Otherwise things may get worse. Resulting into even more cost to fix it.
Recently I have also made a YouTube video regarding in how bad condition a RAW came to me and how I fixed it.
It appears that the user or the 1st tuner didn't know anything about RAW and was not a technical person due to which the cost of fixing was 5 times more than a well kept RAW.
Bhaur
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If someone could not follow the FX masterclass videos on dissembling and reassembling they would have to be a fool. Maybe they shouldn’t even own an Airgun lol.
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There are CLEARLY a lot of folks with near Zero mechanical aptitude. Sorta similar that just because you show a horse water does not preclude them from not drowning in the same water.
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The FX masterclass videos have been around for ALONG time now and there has been almost zero issues with them posted in the forums… Typically those individuals pointed out won’t even look for those instructional videos.
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Really? You can't be serious, I know you know better. If I do that and screw something up, Motorhead will be shaking his head at me telling me to know my limitations. Besides, you know it is a hell of a lot easier to really scrub the barrel when it's off.
The truth is that anybody can screw anything up and anybody can also learn. It just ticks me off when people sit back and tell others not to try, or learn, because they will just screw it up. Maybe they will, but they will definately never learn anything if they don't try something at some point. People should be helping people with that, not shutting them up or ridiculing them and telling them to ship it off to their betters.
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Yeah, so far the arguments against people wanting more support for their own maintenance have been baseless. That is why we are seeing companies come out with more maintenance support.
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Guys, for RAW PCP's work, I started with this Theoben guide by Jimmie Dee Airguns. The Basic blueprint for the RAW.
While part specs have changed a bit, pretty much the same gun.
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