Another doppler radar chronograph, small mounted to the gun

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This has been around for a few months, but not generally available in the US.


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Bulletseeker Mach 4 doppler chrono

Previously Longseeker radars were limited to Air and rimfire the Mach4 model seems to be centerfire oriented weapon mounted radar developed and manufactured in Europe. The price point in Europe is similar to Labradar , but considering you cant really buy Labradar till summer or autmn ,this is a...
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So if i dont have a fruit "smart" phone then i'm SOL with this one?
Way snart, that way i'm forced to buy a Lab Radar, there's no work around at all!
The Lab Radar at least functions as a stand alone unit and all stored measurements can be downloaded to a PC.

So an old sod like me with a Nokia is clearly not the intended user.
 
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Probably both. I'm sure that your body will attenuate the signal and make it harder to read the pellets velocity. As far as if the radiation at that frequency and power is dangerous I would assume that it is somewhat dangerous if you put your head right in front of it. However if you're 100 yd down range I doubt it. The power dissipates using the inverse Square law so doubling the distance lowers the power by four times. So I doubt if it's even strong enough to cause damage if you stand 25 m in front of it.
 
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Probably both. I'm sure that your body will attenuate the signal and make it harder to read the pellets velocity. As far as if the radiation at that frequency and power is dangerous I would assume that it is somewhat dangerous if you put your head right in front of it. However if you're 100 yd down range I doubt it. The power dissipates using the inverse Square law so doubling the distance lowers the power by four times. So I doubt if it's even strong enough to cause damage if you stand 25 m in front of it.
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Especially if the trigger gets pulled

Thanks for the info
 
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BlackICE said:
This has been around for a few months, but not generally available in the US.


www.snipershide.com

Bulletseeker Mach 4 doppler chrono

Previously Longseeker radars were limited to Air and rimfire the Mach4 model seems to be centerfire oriented weapon mounted radar developed and manufactured in Europe. The price point in Europe is similar to Labradar , but considering you cant really buy Labradar till summer or autmn ,this is a...
www.snipershide.com www.snipershide.com
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Nice but pricey $911.12
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SPEED RADAR BS4 NON-EU PURCHASE ONLY | BULLETSEEKER

Best in class BULLETSEEKER speed detection radar comes complete with a mounting bracket easy on and easy off. Fits in the palm of your hand. No awkward stands or frames needed. Easy clip on and off your favourite firearm.Software included to pair with your Apple or Android mobile device. Custom...
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Mine arrived Saturday and I got it out a couple of times. It has a fairly narrow detection cone, because if it’s not well aligned the to the muzzle and close to the barrel centerline, it won’t register the shot.

I taped it under the front stop arm of my SEB Mini front rest and it wouldn’t register the shots. Going on memory, it was about five inches below centerline and 12 inches behind the muzzle.

I don’t want to attach it directly to my rifle barrels all of the time, so I ordered a flexible leg mini tripod that I plan to use to position it just below the muzzle.

I do not have the “bell” accessory designed to pick up shots in more difficult conditions. Maybe that helps in these situations, but when I read the description I didn’t think it would.
 
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I'll stick with this:

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Works consistently (for over 3 years) without fail and is less than $40. Is accurate, but only measures mps (meters per second), not fps. Not a problem.

Works in total darkness without lighting. Does everything most airgunners need at a REALLY low price!

Can't help you to do BC calculations. Can't tell you the POI velocities. All it will do is tell you the muzzle velocity, but it will do that consistently and accurately and for less than $40. Enough said... (smile)
 
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I'll stick with this:

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Works consistently (for over 3 years) without fail and is less than $40. Is accurate, but only measures mps (meters per second), not fps. Not a problem.

Works in total darkness without lighting. Does everything most airgunners need at a REALLY low price!

Can't help you to do BC calculations. Can't tell you the POI velocities. All it will do is tell you the muzzle velocity, but it will do that consistently and accurately and for less than $40. Enough said... (smile)
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I have this chrono as well as a Labradar and the original folding Chrony with only a readout for 1 shot no stats. I also had a CED competition that I gave away. This low cost one measure almost exactly the same speed as the Labradar, but is easier to use when adjusting the gun's velocity. If I want accuracy, stats, or ballistic data then I pull out the Labradar. I don't like the idea of anything attached to the barrel if I concern about the point of impact. Since I got this one I don't use the Chrony anymore. In comparison to the others, the CED took too much time to setup.

I thought the mounting is hokey and 3d printed mounts for the guns I use it on. The metal hoop wouldn't fit large diameter shrouds and can scratch the finish.

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I have this chrono as well as a Labradar and the original folding Chrony with only a readout for 1 shot no stats. I also had a CED competition that I gave away. This low cost one measure almost exactly the same speed as the Labradar, but is easier to use when adjusting the gun's velocity. If I want accuracy, stats, or ballistic data then I pull out the Labradar. I don't like the idea of anything attached to the barrel if I concern about the point of impact. Since I got this one I don't use the Chrony anymore. In comparison to the others, the CED took too much time to setup.

I thought the mounting is hokey and 3d printed mounts for the guns I use it on. The metal hoop wouldn't fit large diameter shrouds and can scratch the finish.

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In my own tests as to POI, I have never had a perceptible change in POI when using it.

Having tested it from 10 meters out to ~40 yards. I could not detect any change in POI, but I am shooting close to ~12fpe. in .177.

Shooting low power (see my sig), so I can't speak to higher power stats when using it.
 
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I feel I can share more about my chronograph testing now.

The LabRadar works pretty nicely if you have “all” of the accessories and you can find one for sale. For airguns, even my .30, I needed the airgun microphone trigger. The JKL inertial trigger just wouldn’t pick up. That can be annoying to use on a line with mag dumpers constantly setting it off. I bought the USB battery and that solves the terrible battery life issue. For powder burners I need the JKL inertial trigger to get consistent shot captures. I also found the aiming add on to be necessary. Overall though I’d still miss some shots. Love that the LR gives down range velocities for highly accurate BC calculations. Even with the latest firmware and iOS app, I had occasional drops and needed to reconnect, which is a slow process.

The Bulletseeker captures with the same reliability as the LR but with fewer things to worry about. I ran mine on a Gorilla Pod placed on the bench next to or under the rifle barrel. It also works when strapped to the barrel but I tried to not do that for obvious reasons. The Bluetooth connection was more reliable than the LabRadar, and I enjoyed that I could set it up and forget it while it collected data. No trigger, just aim it, turn it on, connect with the phone app, and go. Battery life was several hours and it recharges to a functional state pretty quickly. Bluetooth only. iOS app is basic and stable, but I do wish I could download the data like I can with the LabRadar. The weight and compactness of the Bulletseeker is impressive, and may be a big factor for you.

Now for accuracy I did not get equal values between LR and BS. The LR has been tested against very high end devices. I have witnessed the Labradar low single digit ESs with centerfires and so I consider the LabRadar to the the more correct number. The Bulletseeker originally claimed 1% accuracy, but now claims 0.1% accuracy. I think 1% is more correct unless I can find an operator error. I did purchase the optional parabolic end bell and that did not seem to affect the results.
 
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BlackICE said:
This has been around for a few months, but not generally available in the US.


www.snipershide.com

Bulletseeker Mach 4 doppler chrono

Previously Longseeker radars were limited to Air and rimfire the Mach4 model seems to be centerfire oriented weapon mounted radar developed and manufactured in Europe. The price point in Europe is similar to Labradar , but considering you cant really buy Labradar till summer or autmn ,this is a...
www.snipershide.com www.snipershide.com
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www.bulletseeker.com

AIR SPEED RADAR | BULLETSEEKER

Best in class AIR Radar speed detection device comes complete with a mounting bracket easy on and easy off. Fits in the palm of your hand. No awkward stands or frames needed. Easy clip on and off airgun.Software included to pair with your Android mobile device only. Custom APP software.IF YOU...
www.bulletseeker.com www.bulletseeker.com
 
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