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I think you should contact S&G. Ask them the following:Does Liberty have a backdoor access code so even if you change your code they will have a master code? If se even without cooperating with the law, crooked employees, breeches of their security would potential leave all customers at risk! Maybe all the codes are on sale on the dark web.
BTW I do have a Liberty safe with with Sargent and Green keypad lock. Maybe I should replace the lock with something else.
They can already see what ever you do as far as online and also everyone is tracked by the cell phone and it listens to you as wellApple computers have the same risk. If presented with the right paperwork Apple will give the feds access to your computers and smartphones. It's a sign of the times nothing more, nothing less.
Yes you people amaze me too sometimesNot sure what the problem is. No different than if a police wanted into your apartment and the landlord refused until they got a warrant. They got the warrant and were obligated to comply. Why should Liberty Safe fight the warrant when they have no direct responsibility to you? Sometimes you people amaze me.
thats good to know. being a gun safe company you think they would advocate for the gun owners, and require a warrant. just handing it over of a government agency asks is clearly stating who's side the companies on.After the recent raid in Arkansas, Libery is under the gun ( pardon the pun) and rightfully so. I own one and thought I was the only one that could get into it but it seems Liberty will hand over an access code to the three letter agencies so they can open your safe without a warrant.
Greenleaf locks, used a lot of them at my last job to keep things "secure".One of my favorites, very basic but rugged. I have the change key. If someone wants in it will take some effort.
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If the authorities want into your safe, legally, they are getting in. The only questions are "Do you want to be able to use the safe after? and What kind of mess do you want to clean up?".
You are unquestionably correct. However, if it were me in that situation, I would like to be the one making the decision, and I would definitely NOT want the safe manufacturer taking it upon themselves to make that choice for me.If the authorities want into your safe, legally, they are getting in. The only questions are "Do you want to be able to use the safe after? and What kind of mess do you want to clean up?".
The big deal is that the safe company made that decision for him.That was kind of them to get the code and just open it. I used to just push them over on their back and sledge and hooligan the door open by bending the jamb out of the bolts. When that failed just grab the demo saw and let it rip...I don't see the big deal
Well, maybe they did maybe they didn't? Don't really trust all the accounts of the incident, without personal knowledge of all details I'll withhold judgment.The big deal is that the safe company made that decision for him.
Building a safe is not an easy endeavor. You have to weld or have the body of the safe bent, you have to work out a decent hinge arrangement, it’s really heavy work, and then you have to figure out how to get the bolts and locking mechanism to work in unison and smoothly.Have any of you made your own safe? I've been thinking this through recently. Safe material, check. Hinges, check. I'm still a little unsure of what I'll do for the locking mechanism, but I'm getting there. Maybe a Bowley lock.
Ah well, this project is well underway now. Should be complete around Christmas time.Building a safe is not an easy endeavor. You have to weld or have the body of the safe bent, you have to work out a decent hinge arrangement, it’s really heavy work, and then you have to figure out how to get the bolts and locking mechanism to work in unison and smoothly.
And that doesn’t even include sourcing and cutting the steel, which is no easy task, especially if you use something worthwhile like 1/4 steel plate.
There’s just a ton of work involved. Really, it’s much better and easier to just buy a safe with the knowledge that it’s just to prevent children and petty criminals from running off with stuff that isn’t locked up.
Trust me, I know from experience. It’s A LOT of work.
And if you want to avoid safe companies like Liberty from divulging sensitive information, simply replace the electronic lock with a mechanical one where you select the combination.