I have nothing but respect and admiration for you. Having done such a thing myself, I know only too well the work involved.
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Anybody own a Liberty Safe?
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A safe that has backdoor access is not a safe at all.
I never really cared for the safes with electroinic key pads anyway'
I never really cared for the safes with electroinic key pads anyway'
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If you have a manual dial, you're good to go. There is no "master" combo for it, just the combo you set. Digital is another subject.
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You would be surprised. Only takes about 30-45mins if damage isn't a concern. Of course, that's IF the person opening it knows what they are doing.
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Yes, all digital safe locks have a master combination from the factory. If you forget your user code, you can call the company and they will give it to you so you can reset it, provided you registered it at purchase. You can also find it on a sticker on the lock body behind the liner.
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My Fort Knox safe has a manual lock but the combination was already set. I assume you do not set your own combination on these S & G locks, I also assume the combination it left the factory with is recorded somewhere at the manufacturer. I am not in the safe manufacturing business so I may be very wrong.
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The gun shop I worked at 30 some years ago was a Liberty Safe dealer. I ended up being the "safe guy", including doing delivery, installation, and walking the customer through the basics. It was bonus pay and it got me out of the shop 2 days a week, so that was good. The then new digital keypad locks were just coming out, and they just didn't sell. People didn't trust the electronic lock mechanism and all the possibilities that could entail.
The best selling model option was the preferred size and fire protection rating with the manual S&G combination lock and a keylock dial. I bought a mid-size model myself with the now old fashioned lockable manual dial. Of course, that was decades ago, and attitudes have changed. I still would not buy a safe with an electronic keypad lock.
The best selling model option was the preferred size and fire protection rating with the manual S&G combination lock and a keylock dial. I bought a mid-size model myself with the now old fashioned lockable manual dial. Of course, that was decades ago, and attitudes have changed. I still would not buy a safe with an electronic keypad lock.
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Actually, safes are to keep idiots out of your stuff. If they happen to be fire resistant then that's a bonus. If you REALLY REALLY REALLY want to keep some people you don't want out, then you'll have to resort to extreme measures and that will, 99.99999% of the time result in either 1. your demise or 2. a lengthy time in the federal pen. Now, it you want a good solid safe, find an old antique one, which I happen to have one available, but shipping is going to be a certified beech, it's a ships anchor in weight. I have a Liberty, I'm happy with it, I'm not going to say what's in it but it keeps people I don't want out and that's all that matters.
Peace through superior firepower
Peace through superior firepower
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My safe is a Winchester. I bought it about 25 years ago. The local dealer actually found one the size and color I wanted at another dealer and had it shipped in. It originally had a digital lock and when I saw that I said I wanted an old fashione combination lock. He swapped the digital for a combination lock off another similar safe.
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It should have came with a change key along with brief directions on how it works. It's not uncommon for them to be shipped with a combo already set. People want to use it right away as opposed to doing it themselves or waiting to pay up to $400 for a locksmith to do it for them. Honestly, it is not as straightforward as it sounds to change the combo, but it is doable.My Fort Knox safe has a manual lock but the combination was already set. I assume you do not set your own combination on these S & G locks, I also assume the combination it left the factory with is recorded somewhere at the manufacturer. I am not in the safe manufacturing business so I may be very wrong.
You are correct. The company will have the combo on file along with the serial number and warranty info.
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Mechanical locks can be changed, and come with the data sheet and key/pin to reset the combinations.My Fort Knox safe has a manual lock but the combination was already set. I assume you do not set your own combination on these S & G locks, I also assume the combination it left the factory with is recorded somewhere at the manufacturer. I am not in the safe manufacturing business so I may be very wrong.
Smitty
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Only key mine came with was the one to lock the dial, no instructions on changing the combination. I bought this safe 22 years ago, maybe something has changed.
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I didn't read all the posts!,
So let me give you the smoothie! Stop the panic. Not withstanding individual companies ethics;
I am a 40 year safe tech. I've opened and serviced hundreds of safes. VIRTUALLY all ( THERE ARE A Few that don't) electronic safes have an over ride code ( called by several names) built in for factory service. These can be changed and or eliminated by your safe tech. I advise you do so on the install. I'm not talking about the 20lb cracker boxes some call
" safes". There are " black boxes" that will open most electronis.
I could go on. The point is, DONT GET YOUR PANTIES IN A WAD! all these companies / locks work the same way.
I made a small fortune exchanging electronics on mechanics apps. If I weren't retired, I'd make a bunch more putting mechanicals. on the electronics.
So let me give you the smoothie! Stop the panic. Not withstanding individual companies ethics;
I am a 40 year safe tech. I've opened and serviced hundreds of safes. VIRTUALLY all ( THERE ARE A Few that don't) electronic safes have an over ride code ( called by several names) built in for factory service. These can be changed and or eliminated by your safe tech. I advise you do so on the install. I'm not talking about the 20lb cracker boxes some call
" safes". There are " black boxes" that will open most electronis.
I could go on. The point is, DONT GET YOUR PANTIES IN A WAD! all these companies / locks work the same way.
I made a small fortune exchanging electronics on mechanics apps. If I weren't retired, I'd make a bunch more putting mechanicals. on the electronics.
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I watched a youtube from the "outdoors with the Morgans" this morning. He read a release from Liberty Safe saying they have changed their policy. They will now not give anybody the "back door" code without a subpoena. You can also opt out of having them store the back door code for your electronic safe. The host that did the video said he was thinking of buying another Liberty but, even with these changes, he's having second thoughts.
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I hope they have changed their policy.
The thing that stands out in this thread, to me, is what we will react to without any verification or proof. All it takes is a good rumor and we jump aboard, or overboard, as it were. A little reverse psychology and the game is afoot.
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I’m not sure if this applies to all Sentry safes, but the lower end models with an electronic keypad can be opened with a magnet. Two of my friends couldn’t believe it when I opened their safes
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Without verification of proof? Liberty safe has admitted that they gave a three letter agency the code to open a customer's safe without that same agency having to go through the proper legal channels. They even sent out a communique saying they've changed their policy as a result of the severe backlash they've encountered as a direct consequence of their meek submission to the aforementioned agency.
Why would they change their policy if it were simply grist from the rumor mill?
It's not a rumor, it's an indisputable fact.
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It is now verified but this thread started unverified. It was a fair way into it before it was verified. Squawk is fine but too many Squawk and then check.
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