Anybody regret adding an aftermarket regulator?

[mr_nom_noms_]

I just ordered a PCP and am considering a Huma air regulator for it.

It's a AEA HP SS MAX in 30 cal (I know they have their haters but it fit my needs and budget - I hope I don't get a lemon)

Other than a slight power loss, are there any pitfalls in adding aftermarket regulators?

 

[jt-outta-cali]

i had that gun before. why do you want/need a huma reg?

 

[mr_nom_noms_]

i had that gun before. why do you want/need a huma reg?

I'm just a habitual tinkerer. I ordered the gun and a bunch of upgrades. I like the thought of consistent strings and feel it puts out good power anyway,

 

[moodyblues]

I haven’t tinkered much with my Aea, but I’ve tinkered a ton with my Kral rifles. If you like to tinker I’d just buy the reg. I’ve got a couple huma regs for my Krals, I’ve installed them in each gun a few times. I can read something 10 times and it doesn’t really sink in so all the research I did on the affects of adding a reg didn’t sink in until I started playing with one. Good learning experience.

Beau

 

[mr_nom_noms_]

I haven’t tinkered much with my Aea, but I’ve tinkered a ton with my Kral rifles. If you like to tinker I’d just buy the reg. I’ve got a couple huma regs for my Krals, I’ve installed them in each gun a few times. I can read something 10 times and it doesn’t really sink in so all the research I did on the affects of adding a reg didn’t sink in until I started playing with one. Good learning experience.

Beau

I think being a bit obsessive goes with this hobby

 

[moodyblues]

Yes sir. I like tinkering as much as any other part of it.

 

[Trucker3573]

The problem with it in this particular case is that gun is stuck with whatever the hammer spring is as it isn’t adjustable at all other than cutting or changing. This will narrow the regulator pressure that will be in harmony with the hammer. That may not produce the results you want creating more work to get there. In short it may or may not be regrettable.

 

[Long_Gun_Dallas]

For guns that are adequately tuned to be unregulated. ESPECIALLY big bore guns, I would refrain from regulating them. I have 3 guns with huma regulators. One is a 177 cal pistol that was unregulated and was not tuned well at all to be as such. Another is a 22 cal pistol that was also not tuned very well to be unregulated. And 3rd is a 22 cal fx rifle. Ractory reg. Replacement.

For the aea you will likely lose significant power. And will need a much weaker hammer spring, possibly lighter hammer will be in order.

 

[mr_nom_noms_]

Thanks guys I think, based on your replies, I will run as-is and save for that M3

 

[weevil]

My view is less pessimistic- You just have to annotate your unregulated string with bottle pressure readings and then you’ll know what speed to expect from shots at different reg pressures. Then determine if the reg can be set high enough to give you the velocity you want and be sure that when that pressure is reached in the unregulated string, the gun still works (in this case cycles). All that can be determined before buying or installing the reg.

 

[PumaCarl]

Buying a Huma is never a mistake, do your homework on setting it, and except for needing extreme power with limited shots, it's always better for a gun that you are going to shoot a lot. If you are not going to shoot often, and you are going to leave the gun sit a lot, then having an unregulated gun at the right pressure is a good reliable first shot critter popper, can't possibly creep if there is no regulator. That is the only situation where not having a regulator could be better. With that said, I haven't had a Huma creep on me yet and I have owned a few for a few years now, a great product!

 

[Ca_Varminter]

Go with the Huma reg... Set and forget....
I have installed both 1st and 2nd regs in my 2 FX M3.. also have done several in my friends...
No brainer, just keep the bench you work on clean when you assemble....

 

[SpiralGroove]

NO - better than Unregulated

 

[HamburgerTime]

I am not 100% on this but when I was looking at one of the aea hp ss max .30 I wanted to get a regulator to add to it as well but the huma regulator is only a replacement for the factory regulated ones meant for europe with the 12 fpe limit, i think these models have 2 gauges on them already.

The info i read is what stopped me from buying one, I'm not sure what website or thread it was on or it may have even been on reviews of the reg or gun on websites. I suggest if you are not getting one of the europe models that is factory regulated to look into this thoroughly yourself to verify. Sorry I couldn't be of more help, I just wanted to share what I was able.

 

[mr_nom_noms_]

I am not 100% on this but when I was looking at one of the aea hp ss max .30 I wanted to get a regulator to add to it as well but the huma regulator is only a replacement for the factory regulated ones meant for europe with the 12 fpe limit, i think these models have 2 gauges on them already.

The info i read is what stopped me from buying one, I'm not sure what website or thread it was on or it may have even been on reviews of the reg or gun on websites. I suggest if you are not getting one of the europe models that is factory regulated to look into this thoroughly yourself to verify. Sorry I couldn't be of more help, I just wanted to share what I was able.

Oh wow. Very interesting. I was looking at the installation manual and got confused. Maybe this is why. I see the bin tac regulators add a whole big tube to the air cylinder. This would make sense.

*EDIT* this is indeed for the detuned version.

Huma-Air Tuning Regulator For The AEA HP MAX​

For the AEA HP MAX we have a high volume pressure regulator available.
This regulator is vented to the atmosphere without any modification to your pressure tube. So no drilling in the tube and also no creeping up in power during time.
It is suitable for the AEA HP MAX with fill probe on the back of the cylinder, this model has 2 gauges. (See product picture)
Also check if the vent hole is fully open (See product picture)

 

[GA_LeadHead]

I actually regretted adding a Huma regulator on my Impact M3 for one reason. The adjustment screw is a turned with a flat screwdriver and not a hex. Makes it more awkward than it alread is to adjust the reg on the M3.
I switched back to the factory reg, but upgraded to the brass piston.

 

[HamburgerTime]

Oh wow. Very interesting. I was looking at the installation manual and got confused. Maybe this is why. I see the bin tac regulators add a whole big tube to the air cylinder. This would make sense.

I can't find the bintac regulator for sale to see what it is your referencing but I imagine from your description that's exactly it.

AEA HP maxTuning Regulator by Huma-Air

Huma-Air High Power Pressure Regulator for tuning your AEA HP MAX airrifle to the best performance.

www.huma-air.com

The pics of the gun shown are the eu regualated hp max which has a different base to the airtube than the normal version.

 

[cmcleod]

I use regulators on all my 32fpe double discos etc. That said I have adjustable hammer springs and tune the rifles so I can get consistent shots from 3200psi down to 2200psi. I have the added advantage that I modded a stock platform that was designed around a 2000psi max fill. So I get a consistent set of shots which I need for hunting.

 

[weevil]

I actually regretted adding a Huma regulator on my Impact M3 for one reason. The adjustment screw is a turned with a flat screwdriver and not a hex. Makes it more awkward than it alread is to adjust the reg on the M3.
I switched back to the factory reg, but upgraded to the brass piston.

I’m with you on that gripe. The screw head feels like it’s made from soft lead - it gets beaten up very quickly.

 

[MWS]

I'm looking to get a huma regulator for my AEA HP SS .30 cal. Can't find a single video on it. Want to know if it helps solve the problems with the semi auto?