Been on the hunt for a rifle with more power than my hw30 in .177. Looked d34s, and various clones. Thought about a gas ram for a while, I have never had 1. Finally came across the agd website having their sale for the weekend. After cruisin' through pages of rifles I found the Crosman Vantage NP in .177 on sale,and still able to use the discount code. Rated at 1200 fps with alloy. After reading the reviews and whatever else I could find between them, PA, and posts here I ordered the combo. I am prepared for the scope to be a disappointment, and to have to do the bearing mod on the trigger. Overall the rest of the reviews are quite favorable. I also like the idea it comes with a wood stock, although no fancy high figured walnut or anything like that. To be fair you can't buy a nice walnut blank for the cost of the whole rifle. Either way I am a big Crosman/benjamin fan, and it seemed right that my first go at a gas ram style springer would come from them. supposed to arrive Friday. Looking forward to putting it through it's paces. I would prefer if only the front sight was fiberoptic,but at least it comes with open sights. I imagine we are still in the time frame where this will be "old" stock, and fall into the now collectible pre-Daisy/gamo Crosman production.