Arken Optics - new line

I jumped on the FFP thing years ago because I was a hold over guy. When I took to the woods with some of those guns I quickly had a big FFP scope sale. I still have two. The only one I like is the one I initially disliked because I thought the reticle got too big at max magnification. Now I like it because it gives me a usable reticle across the broadest magnification range. With my hunting guns and the type of hunting I do, I just use too much of my mag range do be dealing with a micro reticle in shady or wooded conditions. My Arken is a 4-16 but for me its really a 9-16. I do hope they offer a SFP some day. Clicking away with those pop can turrets would be a breeze.
Couldn't agree more...HOWEVER...This is why for me a FFP scope must have illumination or specific reticle design…otherwise the low end mag is simply unusable. This has been quite a frustration on several occasions in the field. For this reason the otherwise excellent Athlon Midas TAC scopes simply didn't pass the bar for me as an effective hunting scope.

This problem of FFP reticles is augmented when it is in a high zoom ratio scope; for example, my Meopta Optika6 3-18x50 FFP MRAD1 which as a 6X zoom ratio. I use this scope as an example, because the reticle is actually very usable at all magnifications due to a 2 mil donut in the center. It is one of the few FFP scopes that I consider an effective hunting scope. While it looks quite large at 18X, at 3X the donut is just large enough to be effective in most hunting situations. Another FFP scope with a very similar reticle is the Athlon Helos BTR Gen2 2-12 and I think there is a reason that it is such a popular hunting scope.

When it gets dim or dark the Optika6 w/ MRAD1 reticle also has illumination but only the very center hashes inside the donut are illuminated. At 3X power with illumination on it is basically like using a red dot; very nice for dim/dark situations.

This scope truly does almost everything that I need a scope to do with the possible exception of being a bit heavy(31 oz). Nevertheless, I've not purchased/kept many a good scope because it offered no significant advantage over what I felt the Optika6 could do.


I've concluded that FFP scopes(particularly those with a christmas tree reticle) do have a place in hunting/pesting situations where targets may show up suddenly at unknown distances and/or move suddenly to unknown distances. Wouldn't it be nice if pests would just hold perfectly still for a long time? How often and long the pests that you hunt do hold still may determine whether or not you should use FFP or SFP. A good FFP reticle offers efficient...1) range 2) adjust the focus and 3) hold over and windage via the reticle. This obviously eliminates the step of dialing that a SFP scope would require HOWEVER....a good SFP reticle with a max magnification that isn't too high(10X-16X) and that has correct holdovers at that max magnification could theoretically do the same thing. I decided this wouldn't be ideal for me because...1) I don't know of any SFP scopes that have Christmas tree reticles which wouldn't allow for very effective windage holds at farther distances and 2) there is a certain peace of mind that comes with a FFP knowing that my reticles hold overs are always accurate. One less variable in the system...

Still, if I'm honest with myself I realize that dialing doesn't really take that terribly long and many times when air gun sniping the target is relatively stationary. There is a reason SFP scopes are popular with hunters. There's is almost nothing more frustrating than not being able to see your reticle. The quandary is this: FFP means my holdovers are always accurate(but my reticle may be hard to see) and SFP means I can always see my reticle really well(but my holdovers are not always accurate). For me scopes like the Optika6 w/ MRAD1 reticle and Helos BTR Gen2 are the solution.
 
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Arken: Clicking away with those pop can turrets would be a breeze.


Only looking at the turrets made me want one!! 😄
They are sooo good. If scopes could scream, the Arken scopes would scream at their owners: "Please, put a turret tape on me, I beg you!!"



Finally, Arken lowered their 25y parallax to 10y with the EPL4 line. 👍🏼👍🏼

We have the EPL4
4-16x and the
6-24x. How about a combination next:
4-24x? 😊

Matthias
 
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Now that I’m back almost entirely to SFP, it doesn’t take a genius to learn your hold overs and unders. If you pay attention to your trajectories and sight in distance, it’s even easier. I’ve personally decided if I’m long bombing with an airgun where I would be spending all my time at magnifications where a FFP reticle is clearly visible, I have time to dial with a SFP. After all, I’m not shooting Boone & Crocket or dangerous game with my airgun. But this topic isn’t about debating focal planes. I just don’t understand why Arken hasn’t produced a SFP scope. Does the company have what it takes to build a SFP scope that’s spot on at 6X and still spot on at 24X?
 
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Has anyone compared this scope to others such as midas tac, element helix, and etc? The reticle is super nice but idk about the glass quality.
I have a Helix and SH4, I think the glass overall is about the same. The color is slightly better in the Helix, but image clarity is almost the same. I have never looked through an EP5 which is supposed to be better, but the lowly SH4 is a lot of scope even at triple the cost.


If you are looking at buying a budget scope (under ~$1k), none of them have amazing glass. But they are still far better than what we had on the market 10 years ago.
 
@Centercut - I haven't gotten a wheel for it yet to take it out and range it. I haven't found one yet that is cheap enough to "throw away"
if it doesn't work out. Haven't inquired at scope-werks if his fits the new EPL4 yet... I will go out and try it without a wheel the next time I get some good weather to stay out at the range for more than 30 minutes and post the results. So far I'm happy with the scope - especially for the money - just need to get use to the FFP as all my other scopes are SFP.
 
I agree, the turrets feel great, nice big clicks. I've got zero issues with the illumination, even with my old eyes with astigmatism. My red dots look like they have a growth , quite annoying but zero issues with the Arken. Glass is on par or slightly better IMHO than the Titian at a much lower price point. Pretty good in low light.
I'm putting my money where my mouth is, on a new EPL4 6-24x50 FFP MO 30 mil tube. I LOVE the turrets. I DID have an issue with the turrets on two of my Titians, being almost impossible to turn. I contacted Element and the cure was easy, silicon grease on an o-ring. Now my question is....WHY does this have to be done? The Chinese factory didn't lube the o-rings? I did both elevation and windage on both of my Titans, now smooth and easy to move. Strangely enough, the Nexus was fine but...I'll lube it also. But I'll probably be selling a couple of them. Too many scopes not enough guns that I'd want to put them on.

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Hey, HK.
Now that you mention it, about five months ago I bought a Helix and could not get the elevation cap off. I ended up having to use a pliers, and despite my taping and caution, marred the cap. However, Element was very helpful and quick, and they sent me a new cap and turret shipping free and no questions asked. Their service was excellent. But in the neighborhood of your question, I wondered why the cap came so tightly screwed on. I have decent hand strength, for the record.
S7
 
Hey, HK.
Now that you mention it, about five months ago I bought a Helix and could not get the elevation cap off. I ended up having to use a pliers, and despite my taping and caution, marred the cap. However, Element was very helpful and quick, and they sent me a new cap and turret shipping free and no questions asked. Their service was excellent. But in the neighborhood of your question, I wondered why the cap came so tightly screwed on. I have decent hand strength, for the record.
S7
Wow, that's interesting, the question is, how in the heck did they get it on so tight? I just thought of this, those rubber jar grips would/should work to grab the caps, making it a touch easier to grip. Of course it doesn't matter now.
 
Wow, that's interesting, the question is, how in the heck did they get it on so tight? I just thought of this, those rubber jar grips would/should work to grab the caps, making it a touch easier to grip. Of course it doesn't matter now.
I did not mention it, but I did resort to using the rubber jar grips, but to no avail. S7
 
Wow, that's interesting, the question is, how in the heck did they get it on so tight? I just thought of this, those rubber jar grips would/should work to grab the caps, making it a touch easier to grip. Of course it doesn't matter now.
Probably the cap was put on not overly tightened but in a very warm place, or possibly the cap was warm/hot as well. Aluminum will shrink and it will be very tight cold. Just my best guess....
 
Has anyone compared this scope to others such as midas tac, element helix, and etc? The reticle is super nice but idk about the glass quality.
I have and am currently using a 4-16 FFP Helix .. a 5-25 SH4... And a 5-25 EP5

The SH4 is definitely my least favorite of the 3. The image is soft and dull. The EP5 is worth every penny that you have to spend over the SH4.

I do not have arkens new lightweight scope though
 
I have and am currently using a 4-16 FFP Helix .. a 5-25 SH4... And a 5-25 EP5

The SH4 is definitely my least favorite of the 3. The image is soft and dull. The EP5 is worth every penny that you have to spend over the SH4.

I do not have arkens new lightweight scope though
Nsboost,

I have the same Helix. What do you think of it on its own, and how about compared to the EP5?

Thanks. S7
 
Nsboost,

I have the same Helix. What do you think of it on its own, and how about compared to the EP5?

Thanks. S7
I don't have enough seat time behind the EP5 yet. Helix is a great budget optic though

But first impressions... Is the EP5 is everything you'd expect after reading the reviews. Glass is definitely better than the Helix or the SH4. The parallax on the Helix is way closer when it comes to the markings being correct. Its a give and take type of situation.

But definitely pass on the SH4.. I was pretty underwhelmed with that scope