The SH4 in higher magnification is generally considered underwhelming — the SH4 in 4x16 is a different story...
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Thanks. That helps. S7I don't have enough seat time behind the EP5 yet. Helix is a great budget optic though
But first impressions... Is the EP5 is everything you'd expect after reading the reviews. Glass is definitely better than the Helix or the SH4. The parallax on the Helix is way closer when it comes to the markings being correct. Its a give and take type of situation.
But definitely pass on the SH4.. I was pretty underwhelmed with that scope
Let us know how the IQ compares…I have the new EPL-4 (30mm tube version) 6x24. I’ve also got a Midas Tac 6x24.
I just got a 2nd RTI PP yesterday, so today I can do some side by side comparison of the glass quality. Its a sunny day.
One cool thing about the illumination on the Arken EPL-4 is that it only requires one click to turn off illumination - no matter which illumination setting you choose. As you can see in the picture, there is an “off” detent between each illumination setting.
On the downside of this, I find myself constantly trying to turn the illumination, rather than the parallax, as they are on the same “knob” - it will take some time to get used to this.
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I got through about a week and a half ago they told me another 2 to 3 weeks (4-16X)Ive placed order for EPL November 29th, still nothing, phone aint working, two emails no response.
What is your take on the IQ at 24X on the new EPL4? Is it close to the Athlon Midas at 24X or not really?I have the new EPL-4 (30mm tube version) 6x24. I’ve also got a Midas Tac 6x24.
I just got a 2nd RTI PP yesterday, so today I can do some side by side comparison of the glass quality. Its a sunny day.
One cool thing about the illumination on the Arken EPL-4 is that it only requires one click to turn off illumination - no matter which illumination setting you choose. As you can see in the picture, there is an “off” detent between each illumination setting.
On the downside of this, I find myself constantly trying to turn the illumination, rather than the parallax, as they are on the same “knob” - it will take some time to get used to this.
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Well, I’ve been holding off on offering an opinion on the glass until I can spend more time in various lighting conditions and distances.What is your take on the IQ at 24X on the new EPL4? Is it close to the Athlon Midas at 24X or not really?
Wow, the info is much appreciated.Well, I’ve been holding off on offering an opinion on the glass until I can spend more time in various lighting conditions and distances.
I’ll give you my impressions to date. I just checked and have been using the Arken at 24x and the Athlon at 20x for target shooting at 45 yards.
I put some high contrast (black on white) targets up both in direct sun and shade. I had some extremely small print on both targets - the size print on a prescription meds bottle - and I was able to read it with both scopes.
I was most concerned about chromatic aberration - hoping the lens coatings on the Arken were like the Midas Tac, where I find little to no CA.
To my surprise, I found the Arken coatings very good - with no noticeable CA.
So both fine detail resolution at 45 yards and CA were similar.
Now a thought on the scope body - I prefer the Arken over the Athlon (and I love Athlon scopes and own at least 7). The reason is weight - I have the two scopes mounted on identical RTI Prophets and the difference is immediately noticeable. The Arken is much lighter- making the rifle handle nicer and feel better balanced.
Of course, there may be much more noticeable optical differences at 100 yards and beyond. I will test that in the Spring. But at regular airgun distances of 50 yards and in, I’d have to say the Arken is very comparable to the Athlon Midas Tac. Plus it’s lighter, less expensive, has illumination and came with a sunshade (my Midas Tac didn’t come with a sunshade).
Reticle… I like the Christmas Tree reticle in the Midas Tac better, but that’s just personal preference.
Turrets… both scopes have turrets with a precision feel. Zero stop on Arken is super simple to use - but I never use a zero stop, lol. I like the feel of the Midas Tac turrets better, but again both scopes have a nice tight precise feel .
Conclusion - at my usual airgun target shooting distances of 25-60 yards, I’d buy the Arken for $400… wouldn’t think twice about it.
Hope this helps your decision process.
-Ed
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Thanks for that review, EPG. One matter puzzled me. Without looking at exact numbers, I think the M-TAC is just over 26 ounces and the Arken is 23 and change. Correct? Are you saying three ounces made a big difference in hand? Thanks! S7Well, I’ve been holding off on offering an opinion on the glass until I can spend more time in various lighting conditions and distances.
I’ll give you my impressions to date. I just checked and have been using the Arken at 24x and the Athlon at 20x for target shooting at 45 yards.
I put some high contrast (black on white) targets up both in direct sun and shade. I had some extremely small print on both targets - the size print on a prescription meds bottle - and I was able to read it with both scopes.
I was most concerned about chromatic aberration - hoping the lens coatings on the Arken were like the Midas Tac, where I find little to no CA.
To my surprise, I found the Arken coatings very good - with no noticeable CA.
So both fine detail resolution at 45 yards and CA were similar.
Now a thought on the scope body - I prefer the Arken over the Athlon (and I love Athlon scopes and own at least 7). The reason is weight - I have the two scopes mounted on identical RTI Prophets and the difference is immediately noticeable. The Arken is much lighter- making the rifle handle nicer and feel better balanced.
Of course, there may be much more noticeable optical differences at 100 yards and beyond. I will test that in the Spring. But at regular airgun distances of 50 yards and in, I’d have to say the Arken is very comparable to the Athlon Midas Tac. Plus it’s lighter, less expensive, has illumination and came with a sunshade (my Midas Tac didn’t come with a sunshade).
Reticle… I like the Christmas Tree reticle in the Midas Tac better, but that’s just personal preference.
Turrets… both scopes have turrets with a precision feel. Zero stop on Arken is super simple to use - but I never use a zero stop, lol. I like the feel of the Midas Tac turrets better, but again both scopes have a nice tight precise feel .
Conclusion - at my usual airgun target shooting distances of 25-60 yards, I’d buy the Arken for $400… wouldn’t think twice about it.
Hope this helps your decision process.
-Ed
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Thanks for that review, EPG. One matter puzzled me. Without looking at exact numbers, I think the M-TAC is just over 26 ounces and the Arken is 23 and change. Correct? Are you saying three ounces made a big difference in hand? Thanks! S7
I finally got out for a few minutes before it rained again, I can say that the optics ARE brighter, my target was in the shade and it was dark cloud overcast, I saw NO issues with the lens when at 24x magnification. Only got 20 shots off before it started to rain again. One small thing and it's not so small, I have a hard time getting the parallax set on both of my Arkens, it could simply be me, my Elements seem easier to get nailed.I have the same scope as @HogKiller and have been using it now for a number of weeks. It was my only FFP scope in the pack. I recently bought a Riton 7 4x32x56 FFP and took both out in a very bright day. One can really tell the difference in the glass between the 2 scopes. In good conditions, the Arken performs well and I had no trouble setting my zero stop at 25 yards then setting the positions for 50 and 100. I really like the scope for that price range.. Mine came with no problems whatsoever. I already have adjustable mounts so I didn't get the Arken "kit" with the scope. I was looking at the 4x16x44 for a "shorter" range scope but got a ridiculous deal on a 34mm Continental x6 3-18x50 that I had to go for it. I also looked at the new Helix HDLR 2x16 and the new Vortex Strike Eagle 3x18x44. Tough making choices these days!