I had to try some 50 yard groups w the new 3x12. The cardboard was wet and I kept knocking the dots off. The bigger group the dot flipped up sideways so basically I was aiming for pellet holes . The smaller group ,I knocked the dot off on the first shot and had to aim at the first shots hole. The clarity is good enough for me. A VP airgun and a VP scope . Using the bipod and a wobbly plastic table, 5 shot groups , 21g baracudas. I put dot up for size reference at 1".
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