I was putting a lot of hope in Athlon. I'd like to change out all my scopes so everything is the same. Just have a garage sale and sell off the scopes on the guns I shoot all the time. Just haven't found the right scope. I've had a Argos on order for last couple of months. Waiting is OK, but this idea of saying they will ship in two weeks, or to some set time in the future and then not making the date gets old. If they don't know when then fine, just say so. Before I retired the fastest way to lose a customer was to tell them you would be there on a certain date and then not show. But what the hell do I know.