Air Venturi Avenge-X PCP Tuning Guide, AEAC Pre-video Learning

[squirrelinator]

Assuming we are talking about an Avenge-X and not an Avenger, free floating is easy and has nothing to do with the stock screws.

The two o-rings in question can be removed (or just the top one if you prefer) very easily to float the cylinder and barrel assembly. Worth a try.

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Well on the wood stock or at least mine the wood rubs the sides of the tube on both sides I can sand that down for clearance the thing I worry about is that there will be only one screw holding the stock to the action and yes its a avenge x I will try removing the oring off the barrel shroud after the rain stops thanks for the help

 

[Tpatner412]

Well on the wood stock or at least mine the wood rubs the sides of the tube on both sides I can sand that down for clearance the thing I worry about is that there will be only one screw holding the stock to the action and yes its a avenge x I will try removing the oring off the barrel shroud after the rain stops thanks for the help

You've still got the screw connecting the band itself to the stock, and of course, the trigger guard screw. So you're really not changing the attachment by removing both o-rings if you choose to try that. But the best place to start is by removing the shroud o-ring and testing, then go from there. Hopefully that fixes it up for you.

 

[Robertt777]

Anyone knows if transfer port on .25 caliber barrel is bigger than the Tport on the .22 caliber barrel?

I can't manage to shoot .25 grain pellets over 880FPS.. . . . . . .

 

[markhooper]

Anyone knows if transfer port on .25 caliber barrel is bigger than the Tport on the .22 caliber barrel?

I can't manage to shoot .25 grain pellets over 880FPS.. . . . . . .

don't they come preported? maybe check and be sure all the o rings are good on the barrel transfer port and pellet probe.. unless you are shooting slugs that are too tight.. in that case I'd try regular and heavy pellets.. if your speed is good then you might need to try a different slug..
just thoughts off the top of my head..
been asked to machine new barrels for the avenger, but they didn't want to ship the gun.. and I always hand fit my machine work.. besides I have machines before digital readings were even available but they work well for me.. and like a rebarrel I'd use the receiver to make the barrel set screws and the machines ledge on the new barrel to get everything tight and exact.. so I just said that if it is not worth shipping across one state line for a price of just retired hobby work.. it's not worth my time.. I don't want to do anything that makes people not completely happy..
they were wanting to rebarrel with a lothar Walther barrel blank, and longer and wanted to make their own moderator adapter and crown.. and I don't want to take a chance that it's not perfect.. I can recrown in the lathe much better and quicker then monkey around with a Dremel by hand.. the Dremel is likely by hand to not be concentric and then who knows where it is going to hit..
if all else fails with your rifle and you are comfortable pulling the barrel you should check by pushing a pellet through it to see if you have tight spots or if it's choked too tight.. especially if you rule out everything else. the two needing a new barrel had either the barrel set screws drilled to deep or tighten too much.. or both because they had indents protrusion into the bore.. and I don't know if it was that way factory or I suspect someone used tools that they should have not touched.. and overtightened them? but it's a guess not seeing it in person..
T patner up this thread will know for sure if different size ports.. he's a great guy.
Mark

 

[Robertt777]

don't they come preported? maybe check and be sure all the o rings are good on the barrel transfer port and pellet probe.. unless you are shooting slugs that are too tight.. in that case I'd try regular and heavy pellets.. if your speed is good then you might need to try a different slug..
just thoughts off the top of my head..
been asked to machine new barrels for the avenger, but they didn't want to ship the gun.. and I always hand fit my machine work.. besides I have machines before digital readings were even available but they work well for me.. and like a rebarrel I'd use the receiver to make the barrel set screws and the machines ledge on the new barrel to get everything tight and exact.. so I just said that if it is not worth shipping across one state line for a price of just retired hobby work.. it's not worth my time.. I don't want to do anything that makes people not completely happy..
they were wanting to rebarrel with a lothar Walther barrel blank, and longer and wanted to make their own moderator adapter and crown.. and I don't want to take a chance that it's not perfect.. I can recrown in the lathe much better and quicker then monkey around with a Dremel by hand.. the Dremel is likely by hand to not be concentric and then who knows where it is going to hit..
if all else fails with your rifle and you are comfortable pulling the barrel you should check by pushing a pellet through it to see if you have tight spots or if it's choked too tight.. especially if you rule out everything else. the two needing a new barrel had either the barrel set screws drilled to deep or tighten too much.. or both because they had indents protrusion into the bore.. and I don't know if it was that way factory or I suspect someone used tools that they should have not touched.. and overtightened them? but it's a guess not seeing it in person..
T patner up this thread will know for sure if different size ports.. he's a great guy.
Mark

Thank you Mark...

I've done my homework with the o rings, all are good... thing is my gu wont push a 25 grain pellet faster than 880 FPS even if I increase reg pressure to 2500 or 2800 and hammer spring all the way in....

Is it the hammer strength? Is it the valve? the regulator? transfer port size?

I've seen .25 caliber reg set to 2000 PSI and 25 grain pellets fly from 900 to 950 fps...

So dissapointing...

 

[markhooper]

Thank you Mark...

I've done my homework with the o rings, all are good... thing is my gu wont push a 25 grain pellet faster than 880 FPS even if I increase reg pressure to 2500 or 2800 and hammer spring all the way in....

Is it the hammer strength? Is it the valve? the regulator? transfer port size?

I've seen .25 caliber reg set to 2000 PSI and 25 grain pellets fly from 900 to 950 fps...

So dissapointing...

yes very disappointing.. you should message tpatner.. he's up farther on this thread I think.. but it is his baby along with the avenger X..he's a great guy and he likely will be able to help you..
I don't know where you are.. but if it was paid try to help you.. but I don't have a chronograph.. at 2500 regulator pressure it should break the sound barrier with crossman premier round nose.. although I'm guessing that you want to shoot heavy pellets but still the umarex gauntlet 30 caliber I think regulator pressure is 2800--2900 and it's pushing a lot heavier pellet or slugs around 1050 fps.. so I'm not sure what the problem is.. id be glad to look at it but I don't know where you live and shipping costs..
I'd try Tyler patner.. he's from pyramid air and the avenger X is something that he has worked hard to get made and available to us..
oh and well I don't know about most people, how they feel but you are welcome to pm me if you want to
Mark

 

[Tpatner412]

Thank you Mark...

I've done my homework with the o rings, all are good... thing is my gu wont push a 25 grain pellet faster than 880 FPS even if I increase reg pressure to 2500 or 2800 and hammer spring all the way in....

Is it the hammer strength? Is it the valve? the regulator? transfer port size?

I've seen .25 caliber reg set to 2000 PSI and 25 grain pellets fly from 900 to 950 fps...

So dissapointing...

I assume the transfer port is set to the High ("H") setting?

Have you tested various hammer spring settings at that reg pressure?

If yes to the above, shoot me a message, I would like to see a few pictures if you don't mind.

 

[Robertt777]

I assume the transfer port is set to the High ("H") setting?

Have you tested various hammer spring settings at that reg pressure?

If yes to the above, shoot me a message, I would like to see a few pictures if you don't mind.

Yes Tport set to H
Yes various hammer spring settings, there is a point when increasing the hammer spring strength doesn't alter the speed of the pellet roughly like the last 2 turns

 

[Robertt777]

I assume the transfer port is set to the High ("H") setting?

Have you tested various hammer spring settings at that reg pressure?

If yes to the above, shoot me a message, I would like to see a few pictures if you don't mind.

Just realized I'm so new to this forum that I can't send private messages...

 

[Tpatner412]

Just realized I'm so new to this forum that I can't send private messages...

Just sent you a PM, hopefully you see it and can respond.

 

[fishbone]

how light can you set the trigger on this gun ? has anyone checked ?

 

[tx1211]

how light can you set the trigger on this gun ? has anyone checked ?

There's youtubes on it . Remove a couple washers and it's gets pretty hairy pretty light pull vs stock .

 

[Michael]

I just got 83 shots at 32 FPE out of the 210cc tube!!! Factory tune 🫨

 

[woodchips]

I "Pulled" an easy trigger mod from Steve's IG (HookedonAir) that I think you'll appreciate!

To get the last little bit of sear-break-creep outta your Air Venturi Avenge X, remove the stock, remove the trigger sear screw, and omit 2 of the screw's 3 washers. Reassemble and enjoy a perfect 2 stage creep-free beauty

Formula = CW seat the trigger sear screw, CW seat travel adjuster screw, CCW seat the trigger weight adjuster screw

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Is there a video showing how to do this? Is it safe to do with air in the gun? It looks pretty straight forward but I'm new to air guns and a little scared to mess with them. I bought 3 avengex rifles for my boys fir Christmas and would like to learn and teach them how to tweak and tune

 

[Hawkeyehunter]

Ive been following Steve at AEAC for some time now.
As Always thorough, informative and enjoyable.
This rifle is another option at an good price point. Thanks for sorting it out for us Steve!

@Tpatner412

Bought a tube synthetic Avenge-x and having a great time.

Find myself wishing that I'd bought the bottle though. Don't see any upgrade kits. Are those out yet?

I asked pyramyd. They said conversion kits are supposed to be available in March.

 

[rdtricks]

Supply chain issues seem to be a thing with the Aveng-X and assorted parts. I have been waiting for a .22 cal conversion kit for my Avenge-X since last June. We shall see what comes available in the way of parts and upgrades in the next few months. Hopefully replacement parts start showing soon.

 

[Tpatner412]

Hi Tyler, @Tpatner412, is it true that the spring of the Avenge-X .25 is too weak to properly tune the rifle?​

I ask because somebody else said so in a video and apparently the technical guys at Pyramyd AIR / Air Venturi confirmed that.

No, certainly not the case. I think Steve's numbers show that as well. Can you share said video with me?

 

[tx1211]

this whole forum post is about AEAC tuning and dialing in a .25cal avenge-x ... so I'd say no plus eventually someone can easily make some aftermarket hammer springs not a huge task.

 

[Tpatner412]

Supply chain issues seem to be a thing with the Aveng-X and assorted parts. I have been waiting for a .22 cal conversion kit for my Avenge-X since last June. We shall see what comes available in the way of parts and upgrades in the next few months. Hopefully replacement parts start showing soon.

The initial shipment of guns and parts arrived to the US in August. The conversion kits are going onto the website as we speak. The demand for caliber conversion kits is very high, so if you want one, be sure to get a pre-order in, or you're going to be waiting considerably longer if you just wait to see when it shows in stock online. FWIW, my understanding is that the last batch of caliber kits that came in were all pre-sold.

 

[Hawkeyehunter]

No, certainly not the case. I think Steve's numbers show that as well. Can you share said video with me?

I just joined yesterday, so I can’t message on here. I saw this video also. The video was posted yesterday by All About Airgunsand is titled “Avoid this pcp air rifle. I just bought my first pcp a few days ago, I have no knowledge, I’m trying to tune my Avenge-x so I followed this thread.