Back in the saddle with the red wolf 22 at 187 yards

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Flintsack

Flintsack

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Thanks to some help from the boys on the forum, I was able to get a battery working. This one has a little bit higher spec than the factory battery. It’s also a little bit larger. It will take some Dremel work to make it fit in the grip. For now I don’t care. In fact, I bought An extension for my battery cable, the battery just lies on my shooting bench. I like that.

I keep getting fooled by the 23 grain NSA. Every once in a while it comes up with a really nice group. But when the wind picks up at all, they just go everywhere. As of today I have ruled that one out as a possible slug. 


The 20.2 on the other hand seems to perform extremely well. Even when I crank it up to P 12. Take a look at the big sheet first, it shows the power settings that I used going around the clock.

The 23 grain target paper, is upside down. But that’s OK. I had one really good group, and the rest sucked.

Then I showed some of the best small groups. I had a four shot group at right around an inch, Number five did not snuggle in, but it still would’ve killed a squirrel.

As of right now, my opinion is that the 17 caliber Redwolf is funner to shoot. But I have not had a chance to compare them side-by-side in similar conditions.

mike

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Still nice groups! I have assumed that you have a heliboard? If so would you recommend one for my pulsar 177 slug gun?
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If you like to tune and have multiple adjustment points..... go for it. I shot my Wolf a handful of times before I installed the Heliboard, and I don't regret is one bit. Able to go from a back yard tune, to a high powered pellet then to a slug tune. And being able to find tune each setting for each projectile is great. As long as I can get the projectile to group I can fine tune the speed to what I want.
 
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8thman

I only have one Heli board, and four electronic rifles. 


I’m not sure if the pulsar shares the same board as the red wolf. And what I mean by that is, the Heli board might be a huge move for the pulsar.

But from a power standpoint with the red wolf it’s not that big of a difference.

The jury is still out for me as to whether or not the Heli board was a good move or not. I do have a programmer now, so I can change my own settings, whether I have a Heli board or not.

How many foot pounds is your factory pulsar 177?

mike
 
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The Heliboard is great for the Pulsar. We’ve put HeliBoards into four Pulsars in the past half year. .177 Standard, .22 Standard, and two .25 HP. All worked great and gave much improved flexibility and the option to tune for various ammo while at the bench. Highly recommended. Additionally, the majority of shooters I know that shoot the Red Wolf in competition have HeliBoards in their guns.
 
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8thman

I only have one Heli board, and four electronic rifles. 


I’m not sure if the pulsar shares the same board as the red wolf. And what I mean by that is, the Heli board might be a huge move for the pulsar.

But from a power standpoint with the red wolf it’s not that big of a difference.

The jury is still out for me as to whether or not the Heli board was a good move or not. I do have a programmer now, so I can change my own settings, whether I have a Heli board or not.

How many foot pounds is your factory pulsar 177?

mike
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My pulsar 177 hp is shooting the 16gr pellets @930 around 30fpe.
 
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The Heliboard is great for the Pulsar. We’ve put HeliBoards into four Pulsars in the past half year. .177 Standard, .22 Standard, and two .25 HP. All worked great and gave much improved flexibility and the option to tune for various ammo while at the bench. Highly recommended. Additionally, the majority of shooters I know that shoot the Red Wolf in competition have HeliBoards in their guns.
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I have seen some video on tuning with the heliboard! And like you said they are user friendly with a wider variety of choices pending what the gun prefers. I do shoot the nsa 15&12.5 slugs with great success. I just have to make a decision because the 15@900&12.5@990fps I could already be where the gun should be. But I like having a little more control of the gun performance. Thanks for responding 
 
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A bit more on the Heli board. It’s a cool device and very flexible. But once I get things programed to shoot really well, I don’t see myself changing it often. 

If you forget to turn the switch off, your $40 battery is fried. That bothers me a bit.

I had one of my red wolves shooting so well, with the set up that Lauren at AOA Programed for me, And I switched it out, and I’ve been struggling to get back to that level of accuracy since. That may just be my inability to properly program the board. But I’m learning. If I had a magic wand I’d leave that one where I had it. It’s kind of that old thing, if it’s working really really good why fix it?

When you look at the price of a new red wolf, adding a Heli board from a percentage of cost standpoint isn’t that great. It’s like adding an extra 12%.

I bought my 177 red wolf used, for $1600. If I add a hell a board that will add 25% to my acquisition cost. That’s a big difference. Plus that rifle is magic, with the original factory board. It was programmed by some Wiz. I wouldn’t change any settings or the board on that rifle for all the money in the world.

mike

I have an older 30 caliber pulsar, the Heli board is wonderful on that rifle.

And I am enjoying it on my 22. But I still wish I had the original board in there.


 
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I suppose if you have several electronic guns it would make sense to buy a programmer, but I just have the one Redwolf, so for me the Heliboard is magic. I am busy setting it up for 4 different pellets, and with each one the gun is a laser. The way I do it is shoot a particular pellet at different speeds (by varying the voltage) until you get a setting that shoots tight groups, then I shoot 100 shots, after filling the rifle to a specific pressure, I go to 230Bar or 837r. Record the chrony speed, r value and pulse width on each shot, also shooting the 100 shots in 5 shot groups. The speed tends to vary as the pressure drops, so you get a very good idea where the sweet spot is, looking at group size. The go into the Heliboard and change the pulse width to correspond with your desired speed, and then your gun will shoot all 100 shots at the same speed. Then it will shoot so accurately it becomes boring!

As mentioned the only drawback to the Heliboard is that it does not "go to sleep" and you have to remember to turn it off. I leave the backlight on permanently and store the rifle where I can see the window, so if I forget it is obvious as the backlight can be seen. Since doing that I have not lost a battery.

Flintsack I am astounded at the distance you shoot at, for me 75m is out there far. Brilliant groups.
 
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