Airforce Bad Finish On The Cometa 400/ AirForce mod. 94 Springer

Keystone/Skwirl57 attacked me with a dishonest and misleading response and went into hiding...a real stand up guy...that kind of stuff really chaps my cheeks. Buyer beware.
I didn’t attack you and I certainly didn't go into hiding. I did block you temporarily because quite honestly someone like you isn't worth my efforts. If you want to tarnish your credibility by posting a false review you go right ahead. I want you to keep in mind that I shot your gun prior to shipping it including groups and chrono as well as still have it here, untouched from how you had it. The ball is in your court. If you want to play games be my guest.
 
My information won't be false, misleading or dishonest. I have pictures and notes you have the gun lets post some pics and facts about THAT gun together and let the people decide. Thanks.
I certainly wouldn't call Cometa on the same level of Weihrauch. I have pretty close to 15 HWs, and Cometa is basically your budget HW. The absolute fact of the matter is this, you didn't even attempt to try that gun out. You pulled it out of the box and decided you didn't like the idea of using a one piece mount. The real facts are you never had any intentions of keeping that gun. You pretty clearly stated on GTA two weeks before you bought it that you couldn't deal with a plastic trigger. So like I said before, thank you again for costing me money just so you could hold something in your hands and then be a jerk about it. You aren't dealing with a million dollar company here. You're dealing with one person who was attempting to do something nice for the community in his spare time. Have a nice day. Can't wait to see your "qualified" opinion on things.

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My information won't be false, misleading or dishonest. I have pictures and notes you have the gun lets post some pics and facts about THAT gun together and let the people decide. Thanks.
Oh and FYI, coming from someone who actually knows there way around a springer. Of all the HWs I do have plus the FWBs and Dianas, Walthers, Hatsans, and Gamos, not a single one has been perfect out of the box. The high end ones have cost 2-3x more though plus the cost of tuning. This Cometa in my hands sure keeps up pretty darn well.

And now I am blocking you again. Not worth my time or effort.
 
I wrote: "I wish my flock of Weihrauch (90X2, 35EX2, 95X2 R7) shot as well."
That did not state "better than" Weihrauch and certainly did not include Air Arms.
America is not well penetrated by Cometa 400s. UK is. You might want to check USC 400 to Weihrauch on UK forums. But then, you are the expert at calling the rest of us liars.

Nothing that wrote should have produced such a ridiculous outburst. You got something that did not satisfy you. The vendor hung themself out to dry refunding and you went apepoop.
Get over yourself.
 
Hey Star, I guess our samples and expectations must be radically different. Sounds like you are saying your Cometa shoots/is better than the HWs you have listed, (that statement is simply false and misleading) and THAT kind of false info is why I am going to post an actual HONEST side by side comparison with Cometa and other. My sample was very poor and THEN I was attacked by Keystone for telling the truth.
YES, yes, you must post that side by side comparison, please do!
After all, I've never heard from anyone, anywhere that his springer/break barrel exploded, or has had a ruptured cylinder... we're talking ANY brand in the world; Yet my Cometa 300 blew up and I'm probably the only person here on AGN whose springer exploded, and it was a COMETA!
 
YES, yes, you must post that side by side comparison, please do!
After all, I've never heard from anyone, anywhere that his springer/break barrel exploded, or has had a ruptured cylinder... we're talking ANY brand in the world; Yet my Cometa 300 blew up and I'm probably the only person here on AGN whose springer exploded, and it was a COMETA!
Sounds like a defect to me which is quite unfortunate. Is this a possible Covid era production gun? I've seen plenty of issues across the board when Covid first came into play, none quite as substantial as that though. What I can say is that I’ve got a few thousand on my .177 300 without any issue.
 
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I certainly wouldn't call Cometa on the same level of Weihrauch. I have pretty close to 15 HWs, and Cometa is basically your budget HW. The absolute fact of the matter is this, you didn't even attempt to try that gun out. You pulled it out of the box and decided you didn't like the idea of using a one piece mount. The real facts are you never had any intentions of keeping that gun. You pretty clearly stated on GTA two weeks before you bought it that you couldn't deal with a plastic trigger. So like I said before, thank you again for costing me money just so you could hold something in your hands and then be a jerk about it. You aren't dealing with a million dollar company here. You're dealing with one person who was attempting to do something nice for the community in his spare time. Have a nice day. Can't wait to see your "qualified" opinion on things.

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Look, I'm not going to side with anyone here, but I do understand why stu69 is frustrated... I've had bad luck with Cometas myself, but I'm not going to ahead and say that all Cometas are bad. However, I would very much like to see that stu69s' comparison of an HW and a Cometa... That is all.

I don't want to get involved in this quarrel...
 
Look, I'm not going to side with anyone here, but I do understand why stu69 is frustrated... I've had bad luck with Cometas myself, but I'm not going to ahead and say that all Cometas are bad. However, I would very much like to see that stu69s' comparison of an HW and a Cometa... That is all.

I don't want to get involved in this quarrel...
I'd like to see it too. I’ve already shot the gun so I know what its capable of in an experienced springer shooters hands. I know what he's going to compare it to which quite honestly isn't a fair fight. From recent AGN posts he has a tuned 50S and a 30S. Two very tame and easy to shoot guns (that are tuned). Comparing either of those to a brand new out of the box, untuned, unbroken in 16ftlb springer that weighs 7lbs that you've had for like 2hrs is just bad and frankly amateur reviewing. I spend weeks playing with guns before I pass any sort of real judgment. In 2hrs you barely even have time to properly test pellets lol
 
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Sounds like a defect to me which is quite unfortunate. Is this a possible Covid era production gun? I've seen plenty of issues across the board when Covid first came into play, none quite as substantial as that though. What I can say is that I’ve got a few thousand on my .177 300 without any issue.
Here's the link to that article I wrote:

No, my Cometa 300 was purchased back in 2016, I think, but it was probably manufactured some time before that, because M-shop (the store where I bought it) had these things sitting there for years.

A few things regarding Cometas though, my best friend is about 25 years older than me, and he's bought his first Cometa in 2009 I believe (a model 200), and that gun has a protruding piece/ring of metal that you could hit with your fingernail, should you run your hand across the cylinder, and it's located at the exact same place where my 300s' cylinder ruptured... The company has had this exact issue for a long time, maybe even more than just the last 20 years; I'm going to ask him for a pic...

But then again, I heard some people modified the older 400s by putting extremely long and powerful mainsprings into them and they too had thousands upon thousands of rounds through their guns over the years, without the cylinder rupturing.

I suspect that something is going on in that factory of theirs and the covid era only made it worse for them, I believe...
 
I'd like to see it too. I’ve already shot the gun so I know what its capable of in an experienced springer shooters hands. I know what he's going to compare it to which quite honestly isn't a fair fight. From recent AGN posts he has a tuned 50S and a 30S. Two very tame and easy to shoot guns (that are tuned). Comparing either of those to a brand new out of the box, untuned, unbroken in 16ftlb springer that weighs 7lbs that you've had for like 2hrs is just bad and frankly amateur reviewing. I spend weeks playing with guns before I pass any sort of real judgment. In 2hrs you barely even have time to properly test pellets lol
Exactly, and I didn't ever just go ahead and posted a review after just "2h" of playtime with the gun, that's barely enough to get to know the gun. You got to have at least 500 pellets through a specific piece to be able to tell how it's going, and the gun must be "broken in" first.
 
Here's the link to that article I wrote:

No, my Cometa 300 was purchased back in 2016, I think, but it was probably manufactured some time before that, because M-shop (the store where I bought it) had these things sitting there for years.

A few things regarding Cometas though, my best friend is about 25 years older than me, and he's bought his first Cometa in 2009 I believe (a model 200), and that gun has a protruding piece/ring of metal that you could hit with your fingernail, should you run your hand across the cylinder, and it's located at the exact same place where my 300s' cylinder ruptured... The company has had this exact issue for a long time, maybe even more than just the last 20 years; I'm going to ask him for a pic...

But then again, I heard some people modified the older 400s by putting extremely long and powerful mainsprings into them and they too had thousands upon thousands of rounds through their guns over the years, without the cylinder rupturing.

I suspect that something is going on in that factory of theirs and the covid era only made it worse for them, I believe...
Thats certainly interesting. I'll relay the information over to Cometa. I'm sure they've already seen your original post but in case they haven't, I want them too. They've always been very receptive of criticisms and recommendations in my dealings with them. They've even gone as far as to start producing replacement metal triggers for the 400 series that I will have on hand shortly. I dont mind the plastic triggers but metal definitely has a nicer feel to it.
 
Hey Star, I guess our samples and expectations must be radically different. Sounds like you are saying your Cometa shoots/is better than the HWs you have listed, (that statement is simply false and misleading) and THAT kind of false info is why I am going to post an actual HONEST side by side comparison with Cometa and other. My sample was very poor and THEN I was attacked by Keystone for telling the truth.
Please don't argue and go calling folks liars, I don't think he was trying to "attack" you...
Look, I've had my fair share of mishaps with my 300 as well, but nowadays I kind of miss that gun... I can't believe I'm saying this, but it's true! My Cometa 300 was probably the best gun I've ever shot (WHEN and only when I tuned it right, with the help of my friend, of course), but the joyride didn't exactly last long, as the gun exploded a year after it was tuned properly. But man, did that gun shoot great for that year!
 
Thats certainly interesting. I'll relay the information over to Cometa. I'm sure they've already seen your original post but in case they haven't, I want them too. They've always been very receptive of criticisms and recommendations in my dealings with them. They've even gone as far as to start producing replacement metal triggers for the 400 series that I will have on hand shortly. I dont mind the plastic triggers but metal definitely has a nicer feel to it.
Thank you for that!
I'm sure you've got more experience than I do in dealing, or for the lack of a better term, explaining things to manufacturers/companies... Oh, and one more very important thing, I have never oiled the gun by simply splashing ballistol into the cylinder through the vent hole, the piston seal was very lightly coated with silicone grease and likewise the mainspring. Also, the a light coat of grease was put on the cocking lever and on the ball detent for latching the barrel. The gun was pretty much professionally lubricated.
 
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I can't understand how a spring guns compression chamber/cylinder "explodes" unless it diesels to the extreme. Do you mean the end plug popped off or something? Hard to believe any airgun would explode under any normal conditions.
There is a seam between the compression tube and barrel fork. Some manufacturers friction weld these together while others use a different method. Some guns are more noticeable than others. My FWB Sport (probably my favorite gun) is quite noticeable. Theres a bit of a brownish color change where the heat was applied to combine the two parts
 
I really can't see any good reason for a springer to rupture. Even if it were to diesel badly, considering that there is a piston that can be driven backwards to partially relieve the pressure I just don't see where the pressures involved would be high enough to damage anything other than the seals. People shoot potato cannons constructed of PVC and ABS mostly without issue, and that involves much more air and propellant and a much weaker vessel.
 
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Detonation can absolutely bulge an airgun cylinder. So if a gun is soldered together with what we call a "cold solder joint" which basically means a faulty solder job it could blow off. Several modern guns are known to have occasional leaky solder jobs. I have a prewar BSA with such a bulge. Around1920-22 I forget off hand It still shoots well because the pellet is gone before that last inch of travel. I should take a picture of it. Originally the design was to make the barrel and cylinder out of a single forging. But the tube is threaded on right behind the loading tap and then soldered.