N/A Bad things about Cometa

[Sawney Bean]

That's crazy. Something is wrong.

I have no idea if yours is the same trigger as mine. If it is it takes one second to remove it. Push out the pin and it falls out. There is nothing in there that a skilnny Indonesian kid couldn't make with a file in ten minutes. It's a straightforward 3 link trigger from what I can tell. If it's that bad take it apart. If you can't fix it toss it in the trash and get another trigger pack. I think they are $35 or so.

I haven't taken the trigger apart. It does not look like there's much to it. I would be surprised if it's not easily repairable.

I've had several Hatsans with hard, sticky triggers. Every one had plastic bits floating around getting in the way. Once I cleaned them out and filed off .010 under the first stage screw they have worked great. The Cometa uses much better material and is infinitely simpler. So a fix should be pretty easy.

i remember dinking around with my 135’s trigger, polishing and grinding on it. When I got it it was bad enough that I considered it unshootable. Of course you could shoot it, but not accurately. It’s got a decent two stage trigger now, but nothing to write home about. I’m not a huge fan of the Quattro trigger, but it can be made decent enough with some work.

 

[A.G.R]

i remember dinking around with my 135’s trigger, polishing and grinding on it. When I got it it was bad enough that I considered it unshootable. Of course you could shoot it, but not accurately. It’s got a decent two stage trigger now, but nothing to write home about. I’m not a huge fan of the Quattro trigger, but it can be made decent enough with some work.

Did you change the two screws for longer adjustment.
Adjust the rear tension set screw
remove the two mold marks under the bottom sear?
Albeit not a Rekord I have one that’s as Good when done.
it’s not on a big 135 gun but very good solid wall and clean smooth first stage with glass break.

 

[Paul Be Careful]

Kinda like squashing a fat bug. It "pops" after you put some pressure on it. .

Best trigger analogy ever

 

[Hateful McNasty]

My gamo c.a.t trigger ( c.an't a.djust t.rigger ) is like pulling a log chain through the mud wile hung on a snag then the snag breaks ..

Anyway if a guy gets used to it any other trigger is " match grade"

 

[Sawney Bean]

Did you change the two screws for longer adjustment.
Adjust the rear tension set screw
remove the two mold marks under the bottom sear?
Albeit not a Rekord I have one that’s as Good when done.
it’s not on a big 135 gun but very good solid wall and clean smooth first stage with glass break.

This was about 7 years ago or so, so my memories not exactly fresh, but from what I remember of it, I played around with the adjustment screws but could not get an acceptable pull, at which point I disassembled it and started polishing surfaces and eventually got a fairly decent pull out of it.

Mine is nowhere near as good as a Rekord, but it's not bad. I'd say it's about the same as a Gamo CAT trigger that's been adjusted. It's a hell of a lot better than the trigger was on my Beeman Kodiak.

 

[Bedrock Bob]

My gamo c.a.t trigger ( c.an't a.djust t.rigger ) is like pulling a log chain through the mud wile hung on a snag then the snag breaks ..

Anyway if a guy gets used to it any other trigger is " match grade"

You learn to pull what you've got.

 

[Sawney Bean]

You learn to pull what you've got.

I'm not sure which variant I've got CAT or SAT on my Gamo Magnum, but I don't find it to be too bad. I replaced the second stage screw with a longer one and that allows for a lighter pull.

 

[Hateful McNasty]

You learn to pull what you've got.

 

[A.G.R]

This was about 7 years ago or so, so my memories not exactly fresh, but from what I remember of it, I played around with the adjustment screws but could not get an acceptable pull, at which point I disassembled it and started polishing surfaces and eventually got a fairly decent pull out of it.

Mine is nowhere near as good as a Rekord, but it's not bad. I'd say it's about the same as a Gamo CAT trigger that's been adjusted. It's a hell of a lot better than the trigger was on my Beeman Kodiak.

I refuse to use a wench trigger gun.. Kodiaks are either OK ,OR SUUCK. MANY NEVER RETURN TO BATTERY AFTER FIRST STAGE IS PULLED WHICH FEELS LIKE PULLING A LOG DOWN A GRAVEL ROAD.. The good sears that align with the v grove pistons are decent dead wall with a solid 2 to3 lb crisp break.

That being said my Quattro is on a Turkish Tommy and not a big gun. Sometimes big springed guns load a trigger. Shouldn’t as it’s a 4 sear contact point design

I Really would like to shoot a Cometa Fusion before buying.. I’ve heard they are either tack drivers or splatter Guns. Depends on the luck of the draw.

 

[Simplemann]

Nice writeup thanks for sharing

 

[Bedrock Bob]

I can see where the recoil could affect accuracy. It jumps forward a lot. It's not particularly "hold sensitive" but you have to control that forward recoil or you are all over the map.

Lots of guys shoot rested from bags and they may find it difficult to shoot. It's quick and smooth but it requires a little finesse to master that recoil.

You never notice it if you shoot it offhand or sitting. Your body naturally absorbs the shock and it dosent bounce. It will sure bang up your shoulder. After 500 shots I was sore. Last night I shot another 250. I'm headed to get myself a limbsaver pad for it right now.

I had a Hawke 4x Vantage on it. The POI has been moving around a lot. Last night was the last straw. I had to re zero 3 times. It would put them all in the same spot then spray a few. Then settle 6 clicks off. Every time you brought it back to the center of the dot it would shoot great for 35-40 shots and get crazy again. I'm shooting it bare until I can get a new scope for it.

When it was delivered it was damaged in shipping. The box was crushed and the gun had been dropped hard on the muzzle. The front sight was broken. The gun shot inches to the right. Everything lined up and was centered and plumb. But the rear sight was maxed out to the left and the shots were still 1/4" right at 25 yds.

It drove tacks. It was wonderfully accurate. It evidently had been bent in shipping by dropping it on the muzzle hard. But it would keep most of them within a 3/4" circle.

A new barrel and sight assembly was shipped to me and I replaced the damaged barrel. This one shoots just as good. Zero is right down the middle of the rear sight. I have shot some paper with this barrel and it's really promising. It will shoot tight little groups well under 1/2" ctc. if the scope isn't rattling around and I can controll the bounce off my shoulder.

 

[Bedrock Bob]

So last night I put 200 shots downrange. A total of 10,000 shots in about 7 weeks.

After 10k shots the rifle has lost about 55 fps. From 745 to 690. Velocity varies a lot more now and I do notice a little drop in trajectory. One of these days ill put a new seal in it but for now im very happy with it.

It's shooting about an inch at 50 yards. I haven't shot any targets past 25 but it will hit a shotgun shell every darn time out to 50. At 65 yards you can hit a shotgun shell about 1:3. At 25 on paper it shoots 1/2" ctc. with Wal Mart Crosmans. Good consistency with just a few close flyers. I haven't tried many pellets nor shot much paper so it may do better with another projectile.

The trigger is fine. It's not objectionable. I don't like the break but it does not affect my shooting (much). It's just great for hunting or plinking. It grows on you. The only real issue is if you take up the slack in the first stage and don't shoot, the trigger gets funky the next time you pull it. It's different. You have to punch through the shot or recock the rifle to get your proper first stage back.

It's my only real complaint about the rifle after 10k shots.

The safety is simple and I like the location. It disengages too easily. You could easily disengage it carrying and handling the rifle. I'm not sure I would put it in the truck cocked for example. Sliding it across the seat would disengage the safety. For plinking and range use its just fine.

So that's my 10k reflections on the rifle. I honestly love it. I've shot it every day for almost two months. A couple days I put 500 shots through it. Most days are 250+. It's a whole lot of rifle for the money and I'm ordering another one just like it in a few days.

 

[Duckfish]

Jon at Keystone Airguns . Com is your local dealer. He has the upgraded triggers, and will do a tune up before he sends it out if you wish good selection and easy to talk to.

 

[A.G.R]

So last night I put 200 shots downrange. A total of 10,000 shots in about 7 weeks.

After 10k shots the rifle has lost about 55 fps. From 745 to 690. Velocity varies a lot more now and I do notice a little drop in trajectory. One of these days ill put a new seal in it but for now im very happy with it.

It's shooting about an inch at 50 yards. I haven't shot any targets past 25 but it will hit a shotgun shell every darn time out to 50. At 65 yards you can hit a shotgun shell about 1:3. At 25 on paper it shoots 1/2" ctc. with Wal Mart Crosmans. Good consistency with just a few close flyers. I haven't tried many pellets nor shot much paper so it may do better with another projectile.

The trigger is fine. It's not objectionable. I don't like the break but it does not affect my shooting (much). It's just great for hunting or plinking. It grows on you. The only real issue is if you take up the slack in the first stage and don't shoot, the trigger gets funky the next time you pull it. It's different. You have to punch through the shot or recock the rifle to get your proper first stage back.

It's my only real complaint about the rifle after 10k shots.

The safety is simple and I like the location. It disengages too easily. You could easily disengage it carrying and handling the rifle. I'm not sure I would put it in the truck cocked for example. Sliding it across the seat would disengage the safety. For plinking and range use its just fine.

So that's my 10k reflections on the rifle. I honestly love it. I've shot it every day for almost two months. A couple days I put 500 shots through it. Most days are 250+. It's a whole lot of rifle for the money and I'm ordering another one just like it in a few days.

GAMO style or it returns to battery but goes off with different pull

Many Webley Tommy / Longbows are like that . Great first stage great break but let off and it’s never as good the second time. I usually won’t draw into first stage unless on target and am gonna fire.
Gamos with the Gold fish triggers are the worse
pull to second wall it’s stuck there. Got to fire it.

 

[coastal drifter]

So I've been shooting the Cometa Fenix 400 Gas Ram rifle the past month. I have put about 4000 shots through it so far. I put 500 through it in the last 4 hours.

Here's the skinny.

It kicks pretty hard and it jumps forward. The trigger is funny. The open sights are iffy. The bluing is rubbing off where I'm manhandling it with my gritty palms.

Its got a plastic trigger, plastic trigger guard, hollow plastic stock, funky plastic sights and a hard plastic buttpad.

That's every bad thing I can say about the rifle. I tried to find something else but I couldn't find anything.

I named her Maria Chiquita Alvarez. She spits Crosman domes at a steady 745 fps and can hit a quarter at 50 yards 4:5 times. A crushed beer can at 70 yards every darn time. 20 green army men were decapitated tonight with as many shots. Their bodies were shot to pieces and those pieces were shot. If you can see it you can hit it. She's a keeper.

The trigger is different. But it works great. It's plastic. Forgive me father but I like it.

Her plastic stock fits me well. I know it's wrong but I think I may be in love with her.

She will keep shots all within 1/2" ctc at 25 yards with an occasional flyer. Plenty good for my purposes. And she's a sensible girl that buys her pellets at Wal Mart. She likes the CPHP's best so who am I to disagree?

She gets along fine with the frauleins and is warming up to the Turkish girls. Even the ol' 97 has accepted her. I'm thinking about bringing her sister over on a visa to live with us if things keep working out like this!

Now thats a great write up!

 

[Bedrock Bob]

GAMO style or it returns to battery but goes off with different pull

Many Webley Tommy / Longbows are like that . Great first stage great break but let off and it’s never as good the second time. I usually won’t draw into first stage unless on target and am gonna fire.
Gamos with the Gold fish triggers are the worse
pull to second wall it’s stuck there. Got to fire it.

Is there any way to improve them?

It seems to "come and go". When it was new I didn't notice it much. You had to put some pressure against the second stage wall for it to get lumpy. Now it's a lot more pronounced. If you take up any slack in the first stage and release it its lumpy coming back. It seems the second stage wall moves forward.

I haven't cleaned the bore in over 5000 shots. It's overdue for a good cleaning. I'm going to blow the trigger cassette out with some wd40 and see if I can get some red grease in there. Maybe that will help. It's not too objectionable but the trigger is definitely the spot that needs attention.

If I was shooting paper off a bench the trigger would irritate me. Still the rifle is such a good shooter it really does not bother me at all. I haven't picked up the HW's in weeks. I'm hitting everything I point it at even with a lumpy trigger.

 

[A.G.R]

Is there any way to improve them?

It seems to "come and go". When it was new I didn't notice it much. You had to put some pressure against the second stage wall for it to get lumpy. Now it's a lot more pronounced. If you take up any slack in the first stage and release it its lumpy coming back. It seems the second stage wall moves forward.

I haven't cleaned the bore in over 5000 shots. It's overdue for a good cleaning. I'm going to blow the trigger cassette out with some wd40 and see if I can get some red grease in there. Maybe that will help. It's not too objectionable but the trigger is definitely the spot that needs attention.

If I was shooting paper off a bench the trigger would irritate me. Still the rifle is such a good shooter it really does not bother me at all. I haven't picked up the HW's in weeks. I'm hitting everything I point it at even with a lumpy trigger.

That is the factory trigger? not the modified one ..
maybe something as easy as smoothing out the rounded screw or bottom sear.

 

[Bedrock Bob]

That is the factory trigger? not the modified one ..
maybe something as easy as smoothing out the rounded screw or bottom sear.

It's something in the geometry of the trigger that causes it. I've got a hunch how it works but haven't dug into it. Smoothing up parts and lubing things good should help a lot.

I've got some hex boron nitride powder. I'm going to dissolve some of that and a dab of red grease in alcohol after I smooth things out. That should make things slippery as hell.

It's not bad as it is. And I don't think I'll ever make a "match trigger" out of it. But I think I can knock the tops off the lumps a little.

It doesn't bother me at all unless my buddy hits a shotgun shell I'm pulling the trigger on. I could poke him in the eye and he wouldn't hit anything anymore. My trigger would work just fine.

Honestly the rifle would be equal to my D34 if it had a better trigger. I'm really impressed with the whole thing. I've worn out and broken enough air rifles in the last 6 years to fill a roll off dumpster. This one is as good as any I've shot.

 

[Star7]

The UK forum has a series of posts where triggers were modified changing the location and angle of the screws to enhance action. I am a bit too lazy to be fabricating new triggers with a jeweler's saw and files.

 

[Bedrock Bob]

I did my best with the trigger this afternoon. I hosed it out with solvent and took out the trigger blade. Nothing in there that looked worn or rough. I got some nanoparticles on everything and adjusted it the best I could.

I fine tuned it between shots with the adjustment screw and got it working dandy.

It's actually pretty sweet. It breaks nice. Maybe not crisp but no lumps at all. About a 1# pull. If you take up the first stage and release it, you have a light single stage trigger. You don't get a second stage wall back. It's just a smooth (long) single stage release. It's not bad at all. You just have to remember the wall is not there or you will pull through a shot.

I put another 350 shots through it tonight. I purposely released the trigger and pulled it again many times. It's actually silky smooth. Just no second stage wall. The fine adjustment was the key. It just needs to be set perfectly and things work great. If you back the screw out too far things are lumpy and "roll over" when it breaks. A little too far in and it goes off before you feel your second stage. There is about a half turn on that screw between too much and not enough. Once I hit that spot all my problems disappeared and I had a really nice trigger release.