ballistic rubber panel- what fpe???

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bluemoon_wulf

bluemoon_wulf

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So I bought this ballistic panel for my indoors bullet trap.

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It feels heavy and solid, not glued chip board.

My 2240 bounces pellets off at point blank.

My pp800 at point blank seems to enter (don't know if it exits). But at 20 ft the pellet bounces back 20 ft straight to me.

My aea bullpup no problem.

The company super Target systems never responded to my question.

Can you engineer gunners help with educated guesses? What is the minimum range fpe so I don't have to worry about a ricochet breaking my sliding door?

It is 1" thick. It feels 5 lbs, but Amazon says 3.

I do appreciate you gentlemen giving your time and knowledgeable opinions. Thanks
 
This is what I use and very impressed with quality and no bounce back . I even shot it at 2 feet away and no penetration just catches pellets.

Its not pure rubber it has molded ballistic fabric in it to prevent bounce back.



https://hardairmagazine.com/news/new-ballistic-target-panels-from-airgun-target-systems/
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Hey Sell,

That is a nice high-tech piece of equipment.

The panel I am asking about is the cover, not the whole trap. I tape my Target to the ballistic rubber. Which is mounted to this trap.. which I customized. Took off the humongous internal lip which was blocking the pellet landing zone in the trap

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I lined the inside of the trap with ballistic putty. So, high end power I feel fine. The low end is my question.

Thanks for sharing. You too, Bob.
 
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 I have an indoor range in my garage and use a wooden target box filled with rubber mulch about 18in. thick. The body is 3/4" plywood. I also added a piece of 1/8" hard aluminum sheeting on the back. On the wall behind my target box I have two layers of 3/4" plywood covered by a rubber 3/4" stall mat. Over that I put 4 layers of moving blankets hanging loosely. The blankets are mainly to stop a ricochet as the pellet will penetrate the blankets and bounce off the rubber mat and get trapped by the blanket. I actually haven't got to test the backstop yet as I haven't missed the target box yet. I have never have had a pellet make it through the target box yet in 4 years either.
 
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I have a Super Target Systems bullet trap which I use in my basement. It is rated for up to 9mm FMJ and certainly has no trouble capturing pellets and slugs from my various Air Rifles (including FX Impact Mk II PP in .30 cal, FX Crown Continuum in .22, Air Force Condor SS in.25). This is an energy range of 25-84 Ft Lbs. It also handles my suppressed Ruger 10/22.22 LR using CCI Suppressor rounds (45 grain, 950 FPS). I am sure that it could handle any of my (powder) pistols, but that will not get tested because I suspect my wife might object, or at least comment negatively 😎.

I shot it again this afternoon with my Marauder .22 generating 23 Ft. Lbs. Again, no problem with bounce back. However my Crosman Silhouette pistol’s .177 pellets bounce of all over the place.

I would say that if your gun is not generating 20 ft. Lbs. AT THE TARGET then it is probably not powerful enough for this panel and you will get bounce back.



Chris
 
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Hey Chris, thanks for your experience.

I agree over 20 fpe is clear. Am wondering what if any below that is safe.

So far, I feel that co2 power is definitely too weak.

This is the modded trap I have been asking for..

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With the ballistic panel, putty and steel bullet rated trap I think up to 100 fpe is contained. The crosman trap I had previously, was destroyed by my cricket and chronying my pp800 at point blank.
 
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Hey Chris, thanks for your experience.

I agree over 20 fpe is clear. Am wondering what if any below that is safe.

So far, I feel that co2 power is definitely too weak.

This is the modded trap I have been asking for..

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With the ballistic panel, putty and steel bullet rated trap I think up to 100 fpe is contained. The crosman trap I had previously, was destroyed by my cricket and chronying my pp800 at point blank.
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I am pretty sure that the trap you have will contain 100 FPE. It looks pretty good to me. With regard to the lowest FPE that will work, well that’s a little more difficult. I know for sure that CO2 powers guns will not work. they just do not have the oomph to0 do the job. I suspect that pointed .177 pellets in the 12 Ft lb range might be captured by the panel. ILarger pellets (.22, .35 etc.) at low power likely will not penetrate and be captured, simply because of their greater cross section. If it were me i would not try to shoot it with anything less than 12 Ft Lbs and that probably only with domed or pointed .177 pellets. Between 12 and 20 Ft Lbs. I would expect that the pellets will enter the panel and be captured. I doubt that they will pass through the panel. At higher energies they will penetrate and get caught by the trap. Nothing will have the energy to penetrate, hit the backing and bounce back out through the panel. Even.22 LR will not do that (nor would a 115 grain 9mm bullet from a pistol (don’t ask how I know.....)



Chris
 
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I have ballistic rubber, I shoot my Wildcat .25 off it, I use it as my backstop I’ve never had any issues and I have a 3/4 inch plywood behind it

35 yards.

i also have that bullet trap and I get Duct Seal Putty and put it all inside it....



always worked fine 

the problems with ricochet coming back at you always seems to occur at under 650 FPS with cheaper Airguns 
 
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I have ballistic rubber, I shoot my Wildcat .25 off it, I use it as my backstop I’ve never had any issues and I have a 3/4 inch plywood behind it

35 yards.

i also have that bullet trap and I get Duct Seal Putty and put it all inside it....



always worked fine 

the problems with ricochet coming back at you always seems to occur at under 650 FPS with cheaper Airguns
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Hey Fenian,

The slower speed/power is the question.

My pp800 does over 650 fps, but I guess at 20 ft it is slower.

My crosman is modded to do pcp or co2. I need to mod more to improve it's performance over co2 power.

Either way, 20 fpe seems like safe guideline as minimum for that trap.
 
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