Barra 250Z Question

[Arkansas_Airgunner]

Has anyone changed the buttstock on their 250Z yet? I have a really good Luth-AR on my Armada that I want to change over, but for the life of me, I can't seem to get this original off the "buffer" tube. I tried just swapping out the whole assemblies but the Armada is MIL Spec and I can only assume the Barra is Commercial because the Armada tube is ever so slightly larger than the Barra's. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

[PumaCarl]

The Barra buffer tube is sized mil-spec to take mil-spec aftermarket buttstocks. Mil-spec is actually the smaller diameter to the commercial ones. The thing that is different on the Barra buffer tube is that it is threaded to a different pitch so that you can't add your favorite folding stock adapter to the tube. I know, stupid, right? All of us Barra owners have been commenting on how stupid this is as we each figure this out for ourselves and Barra has offered no explanation for it anywhere.

 

[Arkansas_Airgunner]

The Barra buffer tube is sized mil-spec to take mil-spec aftermarket buttstocks. Mil-spec is actually the smaller diameter to the commercial ones. The thing that is different on the Barra buffer tube is that it is threaded to a different pitch so that you can't add your favorite folding stock adapter to the tube. I know, stupid, right? All of us Barra owners have been commenting on how stupid this is as we each figure this out for ourselves and Barra has offered no explanation for it anywhere.

Ah. Ok. All this time I have thought the other way around for the tube sizes. Thanks for the education my friend!

 

[PumaCarl]

Sorry, forgot to answer your question, complaining about my problem. Typical.

The stock should come off if when you depress the adjustment slide lever all the way down, the pin should move out enough to allow it. If it doesn't, and mine didn't, you might be able to grab the pin with a pair of needle nosed pliers and pull it out more, to slide past the stop. If that doesn't work you have to knock out the pins. That's what I did.

 

[Arkansas_Airgunner]

Sorry, forgot to answer your question, complaining about my problem. Typical.

The stock should come off if when you depress the adjustment slide lever all the way down, the pin should move out enough to allow it. If it doesn't, and mine didn't, you might be able to grab the pin with a pair of needle nosed pliers and pull it out more, to slide past the stop. If that doesn't work you have to knock out the pins. That's what I did.

Knocking out the pins is what I was thinking too but I was too chicken sh*t to do it, fearing I would f-up my new rifle. Nice to know someone else has done it with success. Gonna try it tomorrow whenever my lazy tail decides to get up. Thanks again

 

[PumaCarl]

To be clear, the 250z's stock is threaded to accept their buffer tube which is Mil-Spec BUT the threads connecting the tube to the gun's stock are not standard mil-spec. I don't know if those are commercial or just something custom that they came up with, nobody has said yet. Barra thinks that it is enough that you can put any mil-spec butt stock on that you want but they are very wrong. When you have a gun as long as this thing is a folding stock is very important.

 

[PumaCarl]

Knocking out the pins is what I was thinking too but I was too chicken sh*t to do it, fearing I would f-up my new rifle. Nice to know someone else has done it with success. Gonna try it tomorrow whenever my lazy tail decides to get up. Thanks again

It won't matter if you screw it up if you are putting a new one on anyway, you will be pitching the old one.

 

[Arkansas_Airgunner]

To be clear, the 250z's stock is threaded to accept their buffer tube which is Mil-Spec BUT the threads connecting the tube to the gun's stock are not standard mil-spec. I don't know if those are commercial or just something custom that they came up with, nobody has said yet. Barra thinks that it is enough that you can put any mil-spec butt stock on that you want but they are very wrong. When you have a gun as long as this thing is a folding stock is very important.

Ah yeah. I learmed that too. I have a folding stock adapter, but it will not fit on the rifle itself. Thats why I am just changing out the buttstock and keeping their tube in place.

 

[LaRue]

Is there a new BARRA model coming out this year??

 

[PumaCarl]

At SHOT Show they showed the new Gen 2 1100z and a new 400e, future guns I don't know about yet. The only place the industry seems to talk about upcoming guns is at the trade shows, usually. Daystate just did a release, which is unusual. Usually that would have been done at IWI. I think the internet might finally be starting to have an effect on how things are brought to market. It's about time. So, you're just going to have to keep your ear to the ground, no telling when the info is going to show up anymore.