N/A BARRA is also coming out with a bottleless rifle too....!!!


Here's a little more info, I posted on this yesterday or the day before.

This Afro Sniper X interview is making me grin though. The Barra guy has a great sense of humor too.

Anyway we got a price on it now... $400 ... about what I was expecting from Barra. And it will come with a threaded adapted for moderators. Not bad.
 
I'd rather have them put internal baffles in the end vs adding even more length with a moderator. Lord knows we have the tech to makes these with shorter barrels and still produce good power.

Yeah but then subtract 70cc air volume. This rifle is already not very high shot count.

The air over the barrel design is a cool concept, mostly because it looks great. But at least for now there are limitations in air volume. There may be limitations in barrel stability on some of these. And as well, they aren't going to come with internal baffles unless a higher end product does the work to design it. I haven't looked into FX GRS to know if they're doing that or not.

Shorter barrel sure it can be done. But this is a rebranded Artemis with some tweaks. Barra is outsourcing wisely for the price point. If this thing can be cranked up to 60 or 70 fpe with the regulator and hammer adjustments, you've got a pretty capable .25 cal with the trendy new design for $400

I'm keeping an eye on this one when it comes out and people start reviewing them. If this can do light pellets and heavy slugs with a quick external adjustment then it's something I'm looking for right now in .25 ... my highest power .25 is my Guantlet 2 and it's basically not adjustable, although good power accuracy and shot count. But I happen to have a pile of assorted .25 slugs that I wouldn't mind using some day!
 
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Here is a photo of the M30c below for reference:

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400$ is a very good price point!!! Close to the price point around here for the M30c (495 euros).
 
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They still have not put a sidelever on the Marauder! Umarex has gone full line-up sidelever because the customers asked for it. Customers have been asking Benjamin for a sidelever for the Marauder (not some other gun from Turkey) for years, and nothing yet! Don't hold your breath for anything on the Marauder.
Why would they? Velocity Outdoor is 100% about the bottom line. All the tooling and design for the Marauder has been paid for a million times over so the Marauder is undoubtedly one of if not their highest profit margin on any model and they aren't going to go backwards on that now. They are essentially importers and assemblers of manufactured goods like almost all other mainstream airgun companies, including Barra. Barra is more a marketing company than anything else.
 
To just keep the customers they have, NOT to just keep them happy, but to keep them period. They are going elsewhere to manufactures that listen to what their customers want. That's why. There is no bottom line if everyone leaves.
The Marauder is still the top selling PCP from any company anywhere. They aren't the least bit concerned.
 
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Obviously! That is what really irks me. The only reason that I love my Marauder is that I made it great, not because it came that way. Many more people, who want to buy U.S. made, would be buying the Marauder if they just did the sidelever and changed the air cylinder to aluminum. Their own polling showed those two things were what people wanted, not an import line from Turkey, but that's what we got.
 
It looks like the Barra version can have some AR furniture which is nice, but the JTS version has a really nice traditional stock and they are touting "power"so...
Does anyone know if samples of either of the Snowpeaks rebrands have been reviewed? I looked around the net but couldn't find anything except the Remington version and that was out some time back.
 
Giles Berry did a whole series re-building an M-30 five years ago on his airgungearshow.com website, which is what the Barra is. I would have got one if it had a sidelever. This gun has been out for quite awhile.
I saw the Giles video several years back. I'm just wondering if either JTS or Barra did anything different to the rifle in regards to plenum, valve etc. If JTS is saying powerful then maybe something had been modified. I'm a side lever person as well but I think they almost have to keep these bolt action to have them look legit.
 
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Obviously! That is what really irks me. The only reason that I love my Marauder is that I made it great, not because it came that way. Many more people, who want to buy U.S. made, would be buying the Marauder if they just did the sidelever and changed the air cylinder to aluminum. Their own polling showed those two things were what people wanted, not an import line from Turkey, but that's what we got.

It can be done but it would certainly be a lot easier if Crosman would just give us a Gen 3, USA made, side lever Aluma-Rod.

Is this new Barra being made in the same factory the JTS is? Why no side lever? I just cannot bring myself to purchase CCC guns. Maybe someday I will change my mind, maybe, probably not. The Marauder is built to last, most of these China guns look like they are made for a few months. The screw on bolt will come loose like the one on my ex-Gauntlet and needed a winch to cock it. I will pass on both of those features.
 
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