Beeman R9 Fiasco - Chapter Three

[badger5th]

After terrible vertical stringing with my R9 I put a Hawke red dot on it.

Made a night and day difference over all attempts with a scope or the factory sights

Interesting thing I noted is when I had the red dot zeroed it exactly eclipsed the globe of the front post sight insert. It's rated as parallax-free from 30 feet to infinity. Aligning the red dot in the rear notch was so easy it was intuative. Group sizes tightened up by 50% compared with front post only. Very pleased with this at 10 meters. Red dot did not move on the gun after almost 100 shots, maybe its light weight results in less impulse to move it on the dovetail? Longer ranges next... Regards

 

[Sqwirl57]

So you were getting vertical stringing with both the irons and a scope but not a red dot? That seems odd...

 

[SteveP-52]

Nice shooting with a red dot.

 

[badger5th]

So you were getting vertical stringing with both the irons and a scope but not a red dot? That seems odd...

Bad vertical stringing (1"-1.5") with a scope. Less so with factory irons but groups about 2x larger than posted this thread.

 

[Sqwirl57]

Bad vertical stringing (1"-1.5") with a scope. Less so with factory irons but groups about 2x larger than posted this thread.

Ok that makes a bit more sense now. Out of curiosity, what scope was it?

 

[badger5th]

Nice shooting with a red dot.

Thanks, The Hawke has a crisp clear dot on its lower settings. At 3 MOA diameter the dot exactly equals the width of the globe on the top of the front post. The dot also allows for a dead center hold vs a 6 o'clock hold.

 

[badger5th]

Ok that makes a bit more sense now. Out of curiosity, what scope was it?

It's the Hawke Vantage RD 1x20 with 3 MOA dot.

 

[Sqwirl57]

It's the Hawke Vantage RD 1x20 with 3 MOA dot.

No I meant the scope that was stringing on you. Sorry I should have been clearer there

 

[badger5th]

No I meant the scope that was stringing on you. Sorry I should have been clearer there

Ok, sorry, It is a Centerpoint 4-16x40AO. No issues with the scope or stringing on other airguns including a 22 M-rod and a Benji Trail NP2 (also 22).

 

[Sqwirl57]

Ok, sorry, It is a Centerpoint 4-16x40AO. No issues with the scope or stringing on other airguns including a 22 M-rod and a Benji Trail NP2 (also 22).

My HW95 strings like nobody's buisness with my Hawke Sidewinder. That same Sidewinder won't group better than bird shot on my D54. Put that exact same Sidewinder on my HW30, 50, or either 97K and its pellet on pellet... just some food for thought.

 

[Feinwerk]

@badger5th ,
If you had to use an unusually large amount of up adjustment to zero the gun with your scope, the vertical reticle adjustment may have been floating. If this was the case then you want to try to optically center the scope and shim the rear of it to compensate for droop without dialing the up turret too far counterclockwise, thus loosening the spring tension in the mechanism. Just a thought, brainstorming.

Shooting with a red dot is interesting and intuitive. You might want to take off your front sight for an unobstructed view. I use my red dots with the absolute minimum illumination to setting to get the most precise AimPoint. Train yourself to keep both eyes open and a red dot magically appears in your binocular vision on the target. You have to visually estimate your holdover at each range, guessing the holdover distance from the actual desired point of impact. This may take some practice with little steel targets that you can move to different ranges and some spray paint and make a little cheat sheet (a range card) with your holdover distances for each range.

GL,
Feinwerk

 

[badger5th]

@badger5th ,
If you had to use an unusually large amount of up adjustment to zero the gun with your scope, the vertical reticle adjustment may have been floating. If this was the case then you want to try to optically center the scope and shim the rear of it to compensate for droop without dialing the up turret too far counterclockwise, thus loosening the spring tension in the mechanism. Just a thought, brainstorming.

Shooting with a red dot is interesting and intuitive. You might want to take off your front sight for an unobstructed view. I use my red dots with the absolute minimum illumination to setting to get the most precise AimPoint. Train yourself to keep both eyes open and a red dot magically appears in your binocular vision on the target. You have to visually estimate your holdover at each range, guessing the holdover distance from the actual desired point of impact. This may take some practice with little steel targets that you can move to different ranges and some spray paint and make a little cheat sheet (a range card) with your holdover distances for each range.

GL,
Feinwerk

You know, that's a real possibility. I really had to crank the thing up. Will look at shimming.