Benjamin Akela .177

Was thinking about getting one of these, but after getting on Crosman’s site today, I see the price has been raised to $648.60 now. That’s a huge increase from where it was. I’m just not sure that this particular gun without a regulator or LW barrel is worth it at this price point. Can’t get the 20OFFTUESDAY code to work either. What are your guy’s thoughts and is there a discount code that works?

Keith
 
100% not worth 700 dollars with other guns much cheaper shoot better especially in 177 caliber. on the lower price range Gamo urban will out shoot it all day with better just about everything except for the stock. Or BSA coyote or even a used daystate, FX or air arms. Or just get a American made crosman, way better.

these turkey made guns have terrible QC from first hand experience, good support from crosman but still not worth the money nor trouble IMHO.
 
I considered buying one in .177 before the price increase and when the 25% AGNATION discount still applied, but there simply was not enough good info about it from the field for me to pull the trigger, so to speak. Also, I was considering it because it was one of the few AGs at Crosman that were actually IN STOCK!

Now that they have raised the price... it is not even on my radar anymore.
 
I don’t have any input on the Akela, as I’m not a bullpup fan personally but I can vouch for the outstanding quality of my .22 Kratos and my .22 Cayden. I did have an initial o-ring issue with the Kratos but that was a minor thing and was quickly and easily remedied.

Both rifles are 50 yd tack drivers and the quality when compared to any gauntlet or other budget end airgun is head and shoulders beyond. No they aren’t cheap, but they don’t FEEL cheap either. And they certainly don’t shoot like a cheap rifle.
Im a very satisfied owner of both of these rifles and as a collector of Benjamin and Crosman airguns, truthfully I was initially butt-hurt to find out that they were outsourcing stuff to overseas, but I’ve had to re-evaluate my position since first opening the box to the then-new Kratos. And now I can’t say that these Turkish sourced rifles are anything but high quality. 
If you are staying within a budget, then the price without a coupon discount might prohibit you from owning one, but I would never say they aren’t worth the price. I have ZERO buyers remorse. 
I’m actually planning to buy a Kratos in .25 also, but trying to wait for the new Benjamin Gunnar and the Crosman 362 pumpers to become available first. 
 
I am not a fanatic bullpup shooter, however I have a couple of bullpups already, a Bulldog and a Skyhawk, that I dumped a lot of cash on. If the Skyhawk goes tits up again, it will be replaced by the Akela. This is because, I own a Craftsman series rifle and it is one of the best values out there right now.

My Kratos is my most accurate pellet shooter, and by far the easiest rifle I have to work on..

QC is far better than other Crosman guns, only thing close in QC and dependability is my Bulldog.

Closest thing I have owned to my Kratos were a couple Royales I had a few years back, it is that good.

I know this post is a bit different than the posts above, including this strange fact, I actually own one of the Craftsman series guns, not to mention the Prod mentioned above.

My Prod is now a great gun, but only because I sunk close to a grand in it in aftermarket parts, which the Kratos did not need. Other difference were things like a safety that works, you know little things that can keep you and friends out of the ER.

Not an Akela, but after discovering the quality of the Kratos, before I would jump on the Prod train, I would by one of the np series in the Kral line up as it has most of the aftermarket goodies I paid extra for on the Prod.


Regards,



Roachcteek 
 
Unlike some of the posters above, I actually own a Craftsman Series product, not to mention a Prod mentioned above that it was compared to. And they are not even close.

My Prid is sweet, but then after dumping close to a grand in it, it should be. Before the aftermarket parts, it not so sweet. New it arrived without a working safety, missing parts and a gun that could get myself or friends hurt.

my Kratos on the other had is finished nice, is my most accurate rifle and displays quality.

The Kratos was my second choice, I started the day with the intent of buying a SAM, but with my finger hovering over the buy button, I decided more du diligence was in order. Then I found Fuzzygrub’s posts on his Sam experience, even with Crosman help, he could not get it to run and returned it. Now if Fuzzy can’t get a problematic Crosman product to work, no one can. So I ordered the Kratos and I really enjoy the rifle.

I have two bottles I exchange back and forth on my Kratos, one regulated for quiet calm low power shooting and a bottle for unregulated power tunes, I have found it to be the easiest rifle I own to shoot, work on and own.

I did have trouble with the gauge, a quick call to Crosman and I had it within a week.

The closest rifle I have owned in form and function to my Craftsman series Kratos would have to be a couple Royales I owned a decade ago, great guns, as is my Kratos.

After the troubles I had with my Skyhawk, if it goes tits up again, a Akela will most likely replace it, same basic platform as my Kratos, shorter with a tube, I know the quality and support will be there, unlike Diana who let all Skyhawk owners down.



I have found that for me, guns in the second price their, $ 500-700 dollar range are the best values, and my Kratos is a good example.



Regards,



Roachcreek
 
I bought the .22 Cal Akela back when you could use the AGNation discount. Turned out to be a nice, accurate rifle for being in the $450 range after the discount. If you start to get into the $600-$700 range for the Akela then I think you would want to rethink the purchase. At that point you are only a couple hundred dollars away from a used FX Dreamline bull pup which would get you into a totally different class of air rifles that can be tuned and which you can do so much more with as for as upgrades.