Best of Both Worlds

OK, I'll bite. 😊



🔸 How about a recoilless springer like the Diana/RWS 54, but really SHORT? OK, I'll say it: make a recoilless springer bullpup. And please, if the manufacturer is already grousing out the AG traditionalists who like traditional sporter rifles, blued steel, and wood, he might as well make it flat black and synthetic, plz.



🔸 I'd like to see the no-POI-shift and ruggedness of Eastern Europe guns to offer the external adjustability (REG, HST, no-degas switch-bottle) of FX guns. Oh, and not to forget, FX bullpups can learn from the Eastern Europeans on how to make buttstocks that aren't bloated (i.e., the buttstock is only as long as mechanically absolutley necessary).





🔸 I'd like to put together a couple of things: 

▪ The airtubes of AEA guns (not those airtubes that the manufacturer makes so small as if to hide them and make the user think it is a traditional sporter PB rifle — when in fact it is an AG bullpup).

▪ The shrouds of EDguns — large diameter and highly effective — and the stiffness increasing, decorative lines of the Airmaks Katran (not those noodles and drinking straws that FX and others are offering).



Dreaming is fun! 😄

Matthias
 
I think I'd like to see a Thomas and brocock collab, lol. Both manufacture some really solid platforms. Maybe with some woodwork by Gary Cane.

I think a modestly weighted (say 8-9lbs), over-engineered rifle that functions flawlessly, has class, and unbeatable accuracy would be the result.
nice . Thomas and Edgun maybe

IS Mac1 still making guns ? maybe Mac1 and Thomas
 
After months of reading several posts and responses concerning “which gun is better or which do you prefer between ‘gun a’ and ‘gun b’ (most recently an EDgun R5M or a Taipan Veteran)?” I began to think. When examining the positive elements of the guns in these discussions my mind started drifting and I wondered, what if we could take the most favorable elements from two great air rifles and combine them into a fantasy hybrid air gun? Imagine an R5M with a Taipan trigger, smooth ambidextrous forward cocking levers, a crazy quiet shroud, and more svelte finish. That sounds like the ultimate bullpup, but it’s only one example.

Which combinations or manufacturer collaborations would you like to see in the airgun world? How about an LCS/RTI coloab? Or AGT/Zbroia hybrid? Any FX/Daystate combos? Any fantasy air pistol collaborations? Which models and elements would you combine? Ideally how would your imagined hybrid air gun look, feel, and perform? Sky is the limit here. What are your thoughts?

I have thought about this extensively, the thought I have had is contacting Steve Corcoran and asking if I could send one of my Taipan actions to him, have him come up with some beautiful walnut CARBINE stock for it, it would then put the cocking forward of your cheek weld and would also solve the issue some people have shooting a bullpup..... what is your take on this idea?
 
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@CTairgunner1288 There’s a thought. It sounds like it would circumvent reconfiguring the current cocking lever which would likely otherwise require some sort of long linkage system to move the cocking system forward. I haven’t viewed Taipan internals, I’m going off of what I’ve seen inside of other bullpups and a bullpup with forward cocking. BUT I’m also curious as to how far forward the trigger would be moved by integrating a more traditional rifle stock. To add a stock I imagine everything being pushed forward about 6”-10”.

Can you elaborate on how you think it would look concerning placement of the trigger and how the shooters hold and comfort level while aiming and shooting might be affected?
 
Actually , now looking at it, I don't think it could work :( oops

I was thinking these two rifles were much similar in dimensions than they actually are

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@CTairgunner1288 That’s sort of what I had envisioned. The shooter’s arm with the trigger finger on the end of it seems as if it would be forced to be held straighter. Seems like this would cause the shooter to have to do some adjusting to how they’re used to holding the gun and shooting offhand and on the bench due to placement of the elbow (and how it’s bent.) At least how I’m imagining myself trying to shoot that.

Also looking at the scope rails in the photos, it appears that a modified scope rail is in order for the Taipan to bring the rail (and scope) closer to the shooter’s eye for proper eye relief. Simply adding a stock significantly increases the distance from eye to occular lens.
 
@CTairgunner1288 That’s sort of what I had envisioned. The shooter’s arm with the trigger finger on the end of it seems as if it would be forced to be held straighter. Seems like this would cause the shooter to have to do some adjusting to how they’re used to shooting offhand and on the bench due to placement of the elbow (at least how I’m imagining myself trying to shoot that).

Also looking at the scope rails in the photos, it appears that a modified scope rail is in order for the Taipan to bring the rail (and scope) closer to the shooter’s eye for proper eye relief. Simply adding a stock significantly increases the distances from eye to occular lens.

Yup 100% right, I didn't actually look at any photos only thought about it in my head , I was way off!
 
I have thought about this extensively, the thought I have had is contacting Steve Corcoran and asking if I could send one of my Taipan actions to him, have him come up with some beautiful walnut CARBINE stock for it, it would then put the cocking forward of your cheek weld and would also solve the issue some people have shooting a bullpup..... what is your take on this idea?

There was a poster on GTA who mentioned this a couple of times. He was going to have the trigger linkage shortened so a Taipan could be turned into a semi-bullpup like the Cricket Mini Carbine.

I just found one of his posts mentioning it but could not find the post explaining why he abandoned the idea.
 
OK, I'll bite. 😊



🔸 How about a recoilless springer like the Diana/RWS 54, but really SHORT? OK, I'll say it: make a recoilless springer bullpup. And please, if the manufacturer is already grousing out the AG traditionalists who like traditional sporter rifles, blued steel, and wood, he might as well make it flat black and synthetic, plz.



🔸 I'd like to see the no-POI-shift and ruggedness of Eastern Europe guns to offer the external adjustability (REG, HST, no-degas switch-bottle) of FX guns. Oh, and not to forget, FX bullpups can learn from the Eastern Europeans on how to make buttstocks that aren't bloated (i.e., the buttstock is only as long as mechanically absolutley necessary).





🔸 I'd like to put together a couple of things:

▪ The airtubes of AEA guns (not those airtubes that the manufacturer makes so small as if to hide them and make the user think it is a traditional sporter PB rifle — when in fact it is an AG bullpup).

▪ The shrouds of EDguns — large diameter and highly effective — and the stiffness increasing, decorative lines of the Airmaks Katran (not those noodles and drinking straws that FX and others are offering).



Dreaming is fun! 😄

Matthias



Thanks, Dave, for the revive.

🔷 Reading through my previous post — I guess have cooled to the idea of a synthetic springer bullpup. It's a nice idea, but it's just too loud, so — scratch that for me.


🔷 The mentioned large shrouds EGgun have been bested by AGT's shrouds on U2 and V3 — because they are not just large, but beautiful (with their "fluting" or whatever we can call that).
(RTI's Mora is even larger, well done. And AirMaks has similar fluting optics, just not the large diameter.)
I'd love to see similar shrouds offered by all manufacturers as an option when making the purchase. I'd pay $50 extra, no prob.


🔷 My thirst for power has not been quenched yet (I know, I've caught the power virus pretty bad).
So, I applaud RTI for their Mora:
▪Very high power.
▪And — something new on my list of interest: Offering the option of larger calibers (beyond the .30cal) — in this case: 9mm.



🔷 Dream Gun 🔷

🔸RTI's Mora:
bullpup (short!), externally adjustable regulator, very high power, swappable caliber choices up to 9mm, extra large bottle option, MOA adjustable rail, witness holes, max. 300bar pressure

🔸with a shroud that looks like an AGT U2/V3 shroud

🔸with the gun more shaped like an FX Impact/ Maverick (not the boat-paddle-shaped buttstock of the Mora), and with the hot-swappable bottle (I'll take a hard pass on the drinking straw barrels).




😃 But I want to be honest:
I already have a better gun than the gun I dreamt of just a couple of years ago.
➧ So, I'll be content with what I have.* Because it's really, really awesome...!!!
I imagine, airgunners just 10 years ago couldn't imagine the performance we have at our fingertips today!! 🤩

Matthias



*No, I don't even have the Mora.... 😉
 
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Hi Dave
In regards to your original post I to would love to see a collaboration between two of my favorite rifles. Edgun matador and Taipan veteran. My preferred features would be
Matador stock
Taipan trigger
Either brands barrel
Taipan shroud/moderator
Edgun magazine storage
Edgun ambidextrous forward cocking
Maybe modify, either brands magazine to have the pellets or slugs enclosed.