Clark, would this be your first pcp? Sorry if its a stupid question but makes a difference.
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Best PCP Rifle?
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Thank you Jim. I truly have no grief over any of this. I was more confused than anything at a few of the replies. But I get it now, I didn’t ask a simple question. That was my fault
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Using the OP as a guide I would say a Thomas in .22 set up for 25 gr. redesigned JSBs. The new super powered mega shooter that Mike has been developing and testing.
Or, anything that could shoot the 50 gr. JSBs at 900ish and had a shot count that would enable one to shoot an entire card on one fill.
Or, another Impact........
Or, anything that could shoot the 50 gr. JSBs at 900ish and had a shot count that would enable one to shoot an entire card on one fill.
Or, another Impact........
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The wide world of airguns can be overwhelming. It can feel like drinking from a fire hydrant at times. Trying to sort the wheat from the chaff, wading through the circus of on line reviews and youtube videos can be difficult. Good information is golden in value.
I can tell him that my guns are more accurate than I am. But that does not help him make a decision on which gun to buy.
Clark, do you have preconceived notions about what you will do with the PCP?
Calibre is another important choice, tied into Where you will shoot?
I can tell him that my guns are more accurate than I am. But that does not help him make a decision on which gun to buy.
Clark, do you have preconceived notions about what you will do with the PCP?
Calibre is another important choice, tied into Where you will shoot?
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He has an RTI Prophet to beat in the accuracy and reliability department FYI...
I agree that a Daisy Red Ryder reliability however the Daisy 499 Champion for accuracy...shooting BBs it's hailed as the most accurate BB gun in the world.
I agree that a Daisy Red Ryder reliability however the Daisy 499 Champion for accuracy...shooting BBs it's hailed as the most accurate BB gun in the world.
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i would like to submit my favorite - taipan vet long. respectable all around gun for most applications. durable , consistent , only draw back is the weight , not great for carrying around in woods for hunting .
cheaper than the impact , daystate red wolf , and i believe cheaper than the prophet as well. Taipan is a strong value for the buck.
cheaper than the impact , daystate red wolf , and i believe cheaper than the prophet as well. Taipan is a strong value for the buck.
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i would like to submit my favorite - taipan vet long. respectable all around gun for most applications. durable , consistent , only draw back is the weight , not great for carrying around in woods for hunting .
cheaper than the impact , daystate red wolf , and i believe cheaper than the prophet as well. Taipan is a strong value for the buck.
This is probably what the op was looking for in an answer.
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Anybody know how to delete a reply, not just edit it? I wrote a very long reply that went a little off topic, and I really don't have the experience to be giving someone else advice on air rifles. Now I can't delete it. So I edited it to this.
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...that is a board setting we do not have here...
...I opened this thread to find out what the best PCP rifle is but it looks like nobody knows...
...so that is who we should ask...
...IMHO this is the "best"...hey, I'm nobody...
https://www.airgunsofarizona.com/precharged-pcp/american-air-arms-evol-.22-hps/#tab-
...I opened this thread to find out what the best PCP rifle is but it looks like nobody knows...
...so that is who we should ask...
...IMHO this is the "best"...hey, I'm nobody...
https://www.airgunsofarizona.com/precharged-pcp/american-air-arms-evol-.22-hps/#tab-
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Do you want a pistol, bullpup, compact or full length rifle.
Do you want a 6fpe paper puncher or a 80fpe monster
Do you want a gun that has easy swap barrels, .177, .20, .22, .25, .30 and even.357
Do you want a bottle or a tube
Do you want a reg or un regged
Do you want it to be easily modified
Do you want it easy to service
Do you want bombproof reliability
Do you want a right, left or ambitious stock.
Do you want a gun that holds its value.....
Then there is one gun that does all that and more.....The Theoben Rapid
Do you want a 6fpe paper puncher or a 80fpe monster
Do you want a gun that has easy swap barrels, .177, .20, .22, .25, .30 and even.357
Do you want a bottle or a tube
Do you want a reg or un regged
Do you want it to be easily modified
Do you want it easy to service
Do you want bombproof reliability
Do you want a right, left or ambitious stock.
Do you want a gun that holds its value.....
Then there is one gun that does all that and more.....The Theoben Rapid
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I hear the AAA's are great as well 
Too many guns out there that I have not owned to answer this. However, of the ones I do own, I would say Kalibrgun & Taipan.
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Warning, incoming rant:
I think this a very profound question to answer, and it's a good one to reason about, because it's valid not just for an air rifle but for most of the things we consider buying. Phones, Cameras, Cars... think about it, there's no a "best to rule them all" in any of those categories either, and the reason is that while we grow in our understanding, or go through life, we transition by different moments and depending on what point on life we are, the best will change. That's the reason I bought a minivan when I could be driving probably a different car, having a baby is a very specific moment on life and I couldn't find any other car offering what I was looking, for a second just picture me trying to tell another person that the minivan is the best car out there.....
It's very very important to be aware on "your" moment, so you avoid paying a premium "now" for stuff that you don't really need, because oh boy, the premium is always there: Why better not buying this other one that has X and Y? (can be a salesman or even your inner voice) Every time you face that question, think about this: is X and Y something I need now? I'll need it in a few months? Years? Ever? And by answering that decide if you will pay the premium now or later. In the airgun community the decision you make is more forgiving because the guns in general hold their values pretty well and you can always sell them if you made a mistake and just recover part of your money, but things are going to be nasty if you made a mistake on a car or a phone or a mirrorless camera or whatever you decide to pay that premium.
I think a better answer will be to provide a path to grow on this hobby, like what's the first airgun? Should you start with springer or not really? Best first pcp, learn what concept from them and decide, are you going to hunt or compete and from there keep growing, I wish we as the community can create a big decision tree in a diagram that can show all the ramifications, I'm pretty sure this kind of decision tree will be super helpful for the community.
I think this might explain why we say we enter the rabbit hole on airguns, and we end up buying 3 or 4 or 5 or 6 guns, we find in each of them something we need the other can't offer, but it's because by buying the first you realize you have grown and need or want to move to the next challenge.
I think this a very profound question to answer, and it's a good one to reason about, because it's valid not just for an air rifle but for most of the things we consider buying. Phones, Cameras, Cars... think about it, there's no a "best to rule them all" in any of those categories either, and the reason is that while we grow in our understanding, or go through life, we transition by different moments and depending on what point on life we are, the best will change. That's the reason I bought a minivan when I could be driving probably a different car, having a baby is a very specific moment on life and I couldn't find any other car offering what I was looking, for a second just picture me trying to tell another person that the minivan is the best car out there.....
It's very very important to be aware on "your" moment, so you avoid paying a premium "now" for stuff that you don't really need, because oh boy, the premium is always there: Why better not buying this other one that has X and Y? (can be a salesman or even your inner voice) Every time you face that question, think about this: is X and Y something I need now? I'll need it in a few months? Years? Ever? And by answering that decide if you will pay the premium now or later. In the airgun community the decision you make is more forgiving because the guns in general hold their values pretty well and you can always sell them if you made a mistake and just recover part of your money, but things are going to be nasty if you made a mistake on a car or a phone or a mirrorless camera or whatever you decide to pay that premium.
I think a better answer will be to provide a path to grow on this hobby, like what's the first airgun? Should you start with springer or not really? Best first pcp, learn what concept from them and decide, are you going to hunt or compete and from there keep growing, I wish we as the community can create a big decision tree in a diagram that can show all the ramifications, I'm pretty sure this kind of decision tree will be super helpful for the community.
I think this might explain why we say we enter the rabbit hole on airguns, and we end up buying 3 or 4 or 5 or 6 guns, we find in each of them something we need the other can't offer, but it's because by buying the first you realize you have grown and need or want to move to the next challenge.
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Sorry I just can't let go of the money thing, my FX that I bought used I love it, but I cannot let go of 14 15K and up for a new target toy
When it comes to Hunting game I still have to go with the Air Force Line, Although they need to get their head back out of the clouds and start listening to their customers again I know this Covid then the Riots have put a parts supply shortage on them but still they do have some issues
For me this is the biggest thing
There are a lot of good quality guns on the market, But if the customer service and support behind them sucks I am not interested in owning one
When it comes to Hunting game I still have to go with the Air Force Line, Although they need to get their head back out of the clouds and start listening to their customers again I know this Covid then the Riots have put a parts supply shortage on them but still they do have some issues
For me this is the biggest thing
There are a lot of good quality guns on the market, But if the customer service and support behind them sucks I am not interested in owning one
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...and this is why the only new air guns I have bought and kept in 15 years are the Air Force TalonP/Escape and the AP16 Compact/Standard, although I have put money into cool new stuff for my old air guns...
...for me the best air gun might be an Ataman BP17....or a Texan CF .45...I would sure like the BEST AIR RIFLE I posted ubove...but I don't shoot most of the guns I do have...
...right now I have the best air rifle for me, right now, a CZ T 200 fitted with a scope and moderator...
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